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VBprogrammertoday at 7:48 AM4 repliesview on HN

Having pilots fighting over the controls is not a situation anyone wants. The pilot monitoring saying go around should have caused an immediate reaction, the human factors behind why it didn't will probably feature prominently in the post-accident actions.


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rob74today at 9:00 AM

If any of the two pilots feel uncomfortable about the approach, they are actually drilled to just order a go-around, not politely ask and hint that they would prefer to do it like this FO did (wastes time). Ideally the pilot flying should then do it, but if they don't, the pilot monitoring can also take control (while clearly stating "my controls, going around") and do it. One major issue that I bet the NTSB will note in the final report is that both pilots were relatively new to the aircraft and to the airline, usually it's preferable to pair an inexperienced FO with more experienced captains.

(not an aviation expert, just summarizing various bits and pieces I gathered from various YouTubers over the last days)

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shaknatoday at 9:58 AM

Isn't it? Pretty sure its actually the drilled and trained commandment. If you doubt, speak up, and if that fails, take control. [0]

[0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Crew_resource_management

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pluctoday at 11:24 AM

Wouldn't be a case of "if I fix it then there was nothing wrong"? How do you, as an inferior rank, step in to correct something that you think is going to happen? Imagine the inferior officer steps in and lands the plane, wouldn't the superior officer say well duh that's what I was doing why did you intervene? It's an interesting conundrum, I think, and may exacerbate the reaction or lack thereof..

gib444today at 9:51 AM

Your comment doesn't answer my question.

> Having pilots fighting over the controls is not a situation anyone wants

Nor crashing and killing 5 people.