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smalltorchyesterday at 5:56 PM4 repliesview on HN

Hi NSA.

I don't envy the NSA position. I mean honestly it seems like an impossible task to sniff all the packets and find anything useful. A mission to secure the people whilst not infringing personal rights in today's world is a really really hard problem.


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kvujyesterday at 6:53 PM

> A mission to secure the people whilst not infringing personal rights in today's world is a really really hard problem.

The problem is that the NSA violates everyone's privacy without a care in the world.

This makes it pretty easy for them. Stockpile a bunch of vulnerabilities and go to town.

When you cannot even know what their budget is (since it's classified), can you even know what their capabilities are?

hollow-moeyesterday at 6:49 PM

It's not a "hard problem" it's impossible, it would be a typical trying to solve a social issue with technical solution. Bad actors encrypt their comms anyway so only the unaware layman gets caught in the net.

lern_too_spelyesterday at 6:56 PM

They don't sniff all the packets to find anything useful. Snowden showed that they intercept certain packets flowing between particular sources and destinations that might contain useful information. In Snowden's leaks, one such application was email inbox backup transfers for big Internet companies that did not (at that time) encrypt their WAN traffic, from which they mined the sender and recipient to build a social graph, a program that the leaks said had already been shut down.

Mining public forums like this one is likely fair game and seems not to be a secret, but it doesn't require anything in Room 641A.

wat10000yesterday at 10:05 PM

It’s a position they chose. They could say, mass surveillance is unconstitutional and wrong, but we’d be happy to continue with our mission of targeted intercepts and providing secure communication to our people.