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GolfPopperyesterday at 6:32 PM7 repliesview on HN

This is bad news for everyone (well, except the high priests of the LLMs / nascent Cthulhoid godlings), but it certainly makes the communities who've successfully opposed data centers seem ever more justified in retrospect.


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brooksttoday at 2:11 AM

Pejoratives aside, it’s also bad news for AI companies.

Anyone who knows the story of the US auto industry in the 1970’s and 1980’s knows how excessive government protection for an industry works out.

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sigkillyesterday at 8:53 PM

It also sustains the bubble for a bit longer. I'm genuinely curious/anxious to see when and how the bubble bursts. It could end up being something seemingly trivial or random and completely illogical that finally topples the jenga tower.

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dcossonyesterday at 10:06 PM

Why is skipping public review bad news for everyone?

Public review is a blight on the democratic process. Instead of having a set of democratically established laws and regulations that apply fairly to everyone, a small handful of noisy people with too much time on their hands can stop anyone they don't like from doing something that is perfectly legal.

It's an incredibly dumb process and bypassing it is good, actually.

It also has nothing at all to do with whether the environmental regulations themselves are being followed.

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topspinyesterday at 8:20 PM

> except the high priests of the LLMs / nascent Cthulhoid godlings

Let's not be this flippant about where the real pressure for this is coming from. Presidents and their appointees come and go. The people pushing the regulators[1] are not subject to US election cycles. It's important to know who they are when we aim our finely honed fingers, even if we find that these folks were formerly virtuous and mighty green energy advocates, because if your solution is merely different figureheads, all that will really change is the scale of the bribes.

[1] https://www.datacentercoalition.org/members

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aaron695yesterday at 8:38 PM

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cucumber3732842yesterday at 7:21 PM

>(well, except the high priests of the LLMs / nascent Cthulhoid godlings

This is potentially good news for everyone who wants to do anything less dirty than a datacenter (logistics, cold chain, light manufacturing/assembly, etc) because they'll probably be able to get the precedent extended to them in the next decade or so. The people and communities that make money off that sort of stuff will probably do well. Most of that sort of industry is in poorer sections of states where the municipalities are constantly being hamstrung by their own state because the municipalities want to permit it but state rules make that hard. So there is potential for some good to come out of it.

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vjulianyesterday at 9:16 PM

This seems like yet another piece in a build up to a civil war. And those in governance know it.