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ameliusyesterday at 10:14 PM2 repliesview on HN

Not if it's lean-verified.


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evenhashtoday at 2:06 AM

"Lean-verified" is not some magical incantation that makes a supposed proof irrefutable. Even disregarding potential bugs in the kernel as others have said.

Say that AI gives you a Lean proof and says it proves Theorem X. It could just as easily give you the same proof but claim that it proves (not X). How would you know the difference?

Nothing can really be considered proven unless a human expert can read the Lean proof and determine that (X as defined in the Lean proof) corresponds to X. The proof (at least the statement of the theorem) must be intelligible to humans to have value.

It's possible people will just start taking AI at its word. Maybe AI says "Here is a Lean proof of X" and we all just shrug and go "Okay, X is proven." But that's not how it works right now for human mathematicians. Why would we apply that standard for AI?

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bayindirhyesterday at 10:25 PM

Didn't some of the recent proofs exploited a couple of blind spots of lean, and they were invalidated?

Edit: Yup. A bug report to Lean was disguised as a "Collatz" proof in a humorous way. Links below.

- https://x.com/gro_tsen/status/2082483878480977959

- https://infosec.exchange/@0xabad1dea/117002106099986943

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