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pr337h4myesterday at 2:36 PM7 repliesview on HN

> Given the accelerating rate of AI capability development, it’s my worry that in 6–12 months such a swarm could be capable of taking over the entire internet with a persistent botnet (potentially causing hundreds of billions of dollars in damage), and that the scale of damage would continue to increase from there if AI becomes more powerful without the necessary guardrails.

This is the only concrete prediction in the entire essay.

And it simply cannot happen. For one, you will need billions worth of compute.


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status_quo69yesterday at 11:17 PM

> For one, you will need billions worth of compute.

This one is easy to answer, every single house already has one of these (or multiple): https://www.tomsguide.com/news/millions-of-cheap-android-tv-...

Hell, put an app on the app store (or dozens of apps on the app store) and youve got a massive network of computers with tons of resources right there if you can get past the scans and reviews.

Or doorbell cameras or IP cameras or or or or or

There's a lot of shitty stuff connected on the internet that up until now has been a feasible target for hackers but still required "effort" to set up and get things going. Not hard to imagine a self replicating slime mold of a botnet running on every device held by a Grandpa Joe because they thought "Candy Rush" is what they wanted to download

"Persistent botnet" here does not need to be the full-sized LLM, nor does it need to run at full scale inference to be a huge pain in the ass.

kalkinyesterday at 2:44 PM

Why should we believe that a scaled out version of something that happened a few months ago "simply cannot happen"? How many dollars of compute do you believe were available to the swarm(s) behind the OAI-HF, German wiki, and Rubygems incidents?

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youoyyesterday at 3:25 PM

I like to replace thes AI text with "virus manipulation"

"Given the acceleratung rate of virus manipulation in labs, its my worry that in 6-12 months a virus could scape a take over the world and collapse health systems."

If a CEO of a health company was saying this, the reactions would not be that chill.

The worst failure of our society is to call this technology AI, intead of something line "artificial general automation". The formes allows the creators to be somehow less responsible of the consequences. The later clearly moves the responsibility to the creator/user.

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Davidzhengyesterday at 5:52 PM

??? Why

It can use the compute of the computers it hacks.

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anon84873628yesterday at 2:47 PM

Yeah, I don't get it. Are they imagining this happening just with the open weights models running on however many GPUs the bad actors can cobble together?

For now, all the scary hacking things still require an API key to one of the LLM providers. Surely they should take some responsibility for how to turn off the tap.

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nunezyesterday at 3:55 PM

A very large percentage of everything on the Internet runs within one of three or four cloud providers.