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academia_hackyesterday at 3:05 PM10 repliesview on HN

Dario's proposed approach is a classic example of capital attempting to control technological advancement and the means of production. For the first time in human history, any member of the working class can just about afford to have a team of expert scientist/physician/lawyer/engineers working directly for them.

Super intelligence (the ability to have many smarter minds than your own reporting to you) has always been available to the wealthy and powerful. They used it to invent nuclear weapons, cause climate change, mechanize warfare, and pillage the global south.

Now that this same tool is on the cusp of being available to everyone, capital is starting to panic and throw up fences. They want to pump the breaks on a revolution they know they can't control. They see what they've done with super intelligence and (perhaps not unreasonably) fear what the masses will do with that same power.


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stratos123yesterday at 3:59 PM

> Super intelligence (the ability to have many smarter minds than your own reporting to you) has always been available to the wealthy and powerful

This is not what superintelligence is. Don't be like Meta and redefine existing terms for marketing purposes.

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atombenderyesterday at 8:33 PM

If true AGI superintelligence is invented, I don't see how it will be made available to the masses, at least not intentionally. There will be no incentive for the likes of Anthropic and OpenAI to give such immense power to anyone else. Whoever has the superintelligence will be able to race ahead of everyone else.

However, such technology may be leaked, or it may (as what happened with LLMs) be so simple to replicate that anyone can do it. That doesn't mean it will; for example, LLMs are possible thanks to the affordability of GPUs, but they're only affordable right now (and increasingly less so) because of free market economics.

We are in the honeymoon phase of some tech that's in its infancy. The "democratizing" aspect of AI won't realistically last, I think. The current non-AGI AI won't necessarily go away, but it will be rendered obsolete.

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altpaddletoday at 3:21 AM

What a foolish comment, LLMs empower capital owners far more than the 'working class'

amazingmantoday at 3:53 AM

This smacks of "all information should be free" dogma. I for one prefer not to be ground into dust in service of producing more paperclips.

angusturneryesterday at 3:15 PM

This seems highly optimistic to me.

What's to say current AI won't be highly power-concentrating by default?

The best models are owned by a few companies, and displacement of knowledge-workers mainly seems to benefit the capital class.

On-device / edge computing makes sense in a few very limited scenarios. And economically, price or watt/token (or watt/task completed) might always be better in large data centers.

No reason to think we are on a trajectory towards broad empowerment right now

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65yesterday at 6:37 PM

This feels a bit hyperbolic to me. AI seems to me to be similar in "revolutionary" terms as the web, which made information widely available for free if you had an internet connection.

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mboyesterday at 3:17 PM

What? This is capital, on the cusp of total victory, about to cut itself free from the necessity of human labor for productive activity, to elevate itself into pseudo-godhood suddenly panicking and begging its mortal enemy, _the state_ to rein it in and kneecap it. Capital is not stupid: there's no use in being rich if you're dead.

sailfastyesterday at 4:08 PM

Sorry boss but this ain’t it.

I don’t think the answer to nuclear proliferation is to let everybody have all the nukes they want.

You’re framing this like it’s 1917, or 1945. But it is not - and likely has very little to do with capital at all.

Any “revolution” here (assuming there is some truth in the doomerism which I believe there is given the state of AI) will really look more like an extinction or a genocide, regardless of who holds the keys.

simianwordsyesterday at 6:09 PM

unexpected marx/acc. Still lazy Marxist rhetoric (capital, means of production, revolution, masses)

bluerenditionyesterday at 6:39 PM

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