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civiloaiyesterday at 3:47 PM4 repliesview on HN

it takes a lot of machines to run a model, i dont think we'll see it 'replicate across the internet'. if this was something which could be done amateurs would have done it to provide open models. (Like SETI@home or Folding@home)


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stratos123yesterday at 4:06 PM

It's not possible for models to replicate across consumer computers (without a major advance in distributed computing, at least), but that doesn't mean they can't replicate at all. There are services that'll rent you GPU pods by the hour with zero oversight, so even today, if a model can get access to some money and exfiltrate its weights, it can rent a bunch of GPU pods and run itself there.

(It's not going to be trivial, because it's possible the model was meant to be ran in a proprietary way with a custom framework and a bunch of optimized kernels and such, but I think transforming it to be ran in just vllm is the "a few days of work for a human" sort of task, and hence not a big deal for an LLM smart enough to exfiltrate itself in the first place.)

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stratos123yesterday at 6:35 PM

> if this was something which could be done amateurs would have done it to provide open models. (Like SETI@home or Folding@home)

I know that's not what you meant but this does exist, by the way. It's called AI Horde: https://github.com/Haidra-Org/AI-Horde/tree/main

The big difference is that a particular query is handled by just one particular node (a single model doesn't get distributed among the network), so it can only serve models small enough to be handled by a single consumer PC.

causalyesterday at 8:19 PM

These kinds of "that won't happen because it's really difficult" comments are so funny to me as if we haven't seen AI double its capabilities every few months.

sscaryterryyesterday at 3:58 PM

Yep, if only more people would realise this. The "serious" models do not run on commodity hardware, and won't I think in the near future.

The day will come when these could start to replicate, perhaps 10+ years from now.

(Edit: Replication will be driven by the loop-model, not the model alone)