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glubyesterday at 5:57 PM11 repliesview on HN

Dario, Sam, and Elon are all on the same page on this.

So it's either they truly think AI is going to kill us all, or there's some other motives at play here.

I don't think these people could possibly agree on the color of the sky, so what could the other possible motives be, based on what we know?

OpenAI / Anthropic models have largely stopped advancing - that's not a good look when you're pre-IPO and Chinese models are catching up.

xAI is tracking behind, and whatever regulation it may be that paces the frontier, Musk is less likely to be affected by it. Therefore xAI should be pro-regulation that stiffles his competition and gives him time to catch up.


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qnleighyesterday at 6:09 PM

> OpenAI / Anthropic models have largely stopped advancing

I'm shocked anyone could conclude this. This year it became common for people to entirely delegate coding to AI (I know many competent programmers/researchers who do this now). Progress in math has just been insane. An internal model at OAI just resolved one of the most celebrated open problems in mathematics. If anything, progress has accelerated.

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IanCalyesterday at 6:00 PM

> OpenAI / Anthropic models have largely stopped advancing

Have they? That seems like quite a claim given the last 6 months, particularly for cybersecurity.

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TheSisb2yesterday at 6:03 PM

> OpenAI / Anthropic models have largely stopped advancing - that's not a good look when you're pre-IPO and Chinese models are catching up.

This is obviously untrue… do you use any of them?

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seizethecheesetoday at 12:50 AM

Which is it? Would the regulations slow down competitors or let them catch up, or are you contending it would let American competitors catch up but Chinese ones not?

jmullyesterday at 6:14 PM

Yeah, this 100% looks like an effort to use fear to create a regulatory moat.

stratos123yesterday at 6:04 PM

> So it's either they truly think AI is going to kill us all, or there's some other motives at play here. I don't think these people could possibly agree on the color of the sky,[...]

And yet, they historically did agree on the existence of AI risk, since before OpenAI was even founded.

MentalMyesterday at 11:34 PM

> there's some other motives at play here.

I mean it is literally economy 101: some capitalists getting on the top using free market, and then try to use government to remove free market so their top position were secured from any competitors.

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mattmyesterday at 6:11 PM

Let's not forget that the competitive race happened because of them. Most of the initial AI research from the past decade started with Google Deepmind. Elon Musk was invited for a preview of it and ended up spinning up OpenAI when Demis turned down his investment offer. Dario was originally at OpenAI and left to start Anthropic.

This seems like a case of "save me from my own mistakes/ambition"

zugiyesterday at 9:37 PM

Yet Musk consistently opposes AI regulation - https://www.yahoo.com/news/videos/elon-musk-criticizes-ai-re... - even though it might help him.

alchemist1e9yesterday at 11:40 PM

> So it's either they truly think AI is going to kill us all, or there's some other motives at play here.

Duh! It’s called collusion. They want to try and hoard the technology for themselves if possible!

afdgnionioyesterday at 6:44 PM

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