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brainwadtoday at 1:18 PM5 repliesview on HN

Precedent is pretty clear: competitive uses bad, transformative uses good. Xcancel scrapes and then competes directly with X, whereas LLM labs scrape the internet to make an agentic intelligent bot, a transformative use of the scraped content.


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Planktonnetoday at 1:31 PM

> Xcancel scrapes and then competes directly with X, whereas LLM labs scrape the internet to make an agentic intelligent bot, a transformative use of the scraped content.

It seems unreasonable to stop there though; the agentic bots are designed and marketed as able to compete with the initially-scraped sources.

I'm not convinced that a competitive use at one remove should be treated as not competitive.

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nixpulvistoday at 1:50 PM

I think LLMs providers pretty directly compete with content they scrape like Wikipedia and SO...

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bonsai_spooltoday at 1:25 PM

> Precedent is pretty clear:

What cases are you citing when you say this?

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kelvinjps10today at 5:37 PM

but xcancel is not putting ads or making a commercial product

ratelimitstevetoday at 3:11 PM

How clear is it when I google a recipe and get an AI-generated recipe that's clearly derived from the top three results and then placed above those results? That sounds like it's both transformative (in that the recipe created by the AI may not match any one of the scraped recipes perfectly) and also competitive (in that the AI takes page views away from the pages it got the recipes from)

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