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grueztoday at 2:46 AM4 repliesview on HN

>and the DOJ has done nothing against the AI companies and their IP violating antics.

For good reason. Courts have so far ruled AI training is fair use, and it doesn't look likely to be overturned by the supreme court. Theres also the matter of some labs pirating books to get training data, which is illegal (they lost in civil court), but it's unclear whether that can be criminally prosecuted.


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c2h5ohtoday at 4:47 AM

Courts have also ruled that sharing in P2P network is enough to get hit with 150k in statutory damages per shared work.

AI companies did quite a bit of uploading while e.g. getting Anna's archive over BitTorrent.

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adastra22today at 2:57 AM

Hacking other companies is illegal as far as I understand.

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crotetoday at 4:18 AM

Okay, and? If anything, the Swartz case was even more direct fair use. There's very little to use JSTOR for which isn't some form of teaching, scholarship, or research!

Clearly the fact that the end-use is (possibly) fair use isn't the only thing that matters.

Madmallardtoday at 5:56 AM

It wouldn't be ruled fair use in a sane society without bribery and lobbying with competent technologically savvy law interpreters.