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ramon156last Tuesday at 8:05 PM6 repliesview on HN

This sounds good but so far all claims just sound like marketing terms. I'd love to see real proof. e.g. "RLCD" and "parallel sampling" have nothing to back it up.

also "70-500ms vs 3-329 seconds" are apples-to-oranges unless the LLM baseline is doing comparable work (e.g., long chain-of-thought). If Jev is skipping generation entirely for a narrow structured task, of course it's faster.

Nonetheless i want this to be true, so I'm looking forward to Jev

Edit: I really have to say that I like their manifesto https://typesafe.ai/manifesto


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why_only_15last Tuesday at 8:10 PM

They have various benchmarks, e.g. how much time it takes them to do wikipedia page -> page games. Jev seems to take the same or fewer hops but in ~10x less time and for ~10x less money.

It's totally reasonable to compare against LLMs doing chain of thought if it gets comparable performance.

yunwalyesterday at 12:43 AM

> If Jev is skipping generation entirely for a narrow structured task, of course it's faster

I think this is reasonable if people are actually using LLMs to solve this type of narrow structured task, which they are. The evidence is that every LLM provider has some method of forcing the output to conform to a json schema in their documentation.

CompleteSkepticlast Tuesday at 8:55 PM

love that you love the manifesto! letting the first batches off the waitlist now, but we do have some early users describing their experience (https://x.com/danshipper/status/2099947471518474522)

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bigglebearyesterday at 1:06 AM

> I really have to say that I like their manifesto

Their manifesto: "you only build on top of it if it's trustworthy." - the irony of this while putting out the most misleading, dishonest marketing campaign I've seen in months for their first public appearance doesn't exactly scream "trustworthy" to me.

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vatsachaklast Tuesday at 8:13 PM

It's not an LLM though it's a frontier model on structured data

BoorishBearslast Tuesday at 8:17 PM

Did you see the video where it plays Doom, it made it click for me

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