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WhitneyLandlast Tuesday at 9:30 PM6 repliesview on HN

What was misleading was the original title:

"Jev: New frontier model 40-400x cheaper and 20-200x faster"

I'm not the gatekeeper of who gets to call themselves a frontier model, but I don't think most people would count Jev in that group. It sounds false.

If their specific claims hold up, then it would make more sense to say something like:

"Advanced the speed/cost frontier for structured decisions"


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srousseylast Tuesday at 9:53 PM

I dunno, I would consider Waymo and Tesla to have frontier models.

I think AlphaFold and related are also frontier models.

Being an LLM does not seem like the qualifier for frontier.

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cgioyesterday at 9:26 AM

It is frontier in the sense it is exploring an unexplored domain. I do agree on questioning the comparatives though. Speed/cost is indeed relevant for problems that can be framed as structured decisions only. The question is, would defining a structured decision model be a structured decision model itself? This would significantly increase the application domain.

janalsncmlast Tuesday at 10:08 PM

Large language models are not the only type of model.

alfalfasproutlast Tuesday at 9:59 PM

How is this not a frontier model? It's bleeding edge in its own niche. It's not a frontier LLM; however, applicable to many of the things people use LLMs for.

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nalishwanalast Tuesday at 10:36 PM

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