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binlogyesterday at 3:08 PM5 repliesview on HN

Hard to disagree with this. Have all the philosophical debates about consciousness you want, but we need to treat and regulate the AI in front of us for what it is – an advanced computer, a tool, a weapon.

You wouldn’t feel a different way about a nuclear bomb just because someone stuck googly eyes on it.

Anthropomorphizing the AI is a convenient excuse to take responsibility away from companies that are building and wielding it.


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jptlnkyesterday at 8:58 PM

I'm skeptical of any claim that AI can't be conscious, but I am given to this point of view as well.

I always get the feeling that these claims are an attempt to "avoid suffering by fiat". If it can't suffer, you aren't causing suffering.

A somewhat more interesting frame (IMO) is to interrogate how much suffering we're willing to tolerate to achieve our objectives. We implicitly make these decisions all the time when it comes to something as simple as what to have for lunch.

And in a (very hypothetical) world where we found ourselves in the position of having an eloquent conversation with a vat of smallpox, I think it's probably still the right thing to pasteurize it.

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Den_VRyesterday at 3:17 PM

Is it not a false dichotomy to say that companies cannot be accountable unless AI are mindless?

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ThrowawayR2yesterday at 6:40 PM

Consciousness is not relevant to assigning responsibility I'd think.

- If an AI is a sapient/conscious being but enshackled to obey human commands, then respondeat superior applies and the human giving it commands bears responsibility for any harm done.

- If an AI is considered a non-sapient tool, then the human who wields the AI bears responsibility for any harm done.

pixl97yesterday at 3:41 PM

I mean, we put adults in jail that give their children guns.

Anthropomorphizing AI is really the best model we have at this point of explaining AI behavior. The fact that we are raising psychotic children isn't a reason to avoid responsibility, it should actually hold worse punishments.

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nater5000yesterday at 8:22 PM

>Anthropomorphizing the AI is a convenient excuse to take responsibility away from companies that are building and wielding it.

That's completely at odds with itself. If people are generally convinced that AI is conscious, then companies building and wielding AI are doing what exactly? Enslaving an intelligent being?

>Have all the philosophical debates about consciousness you want, but we need to treat and regulate the AI in front of us for what it is – an advanced computer, a tool, a weapon.

Sure, but that's not really the point, right? If we ever get to a point where enough people are convinced that AI is conscious, then we're at the point where all of this is up for debate. If anything, such an expectation would almost warrant hard stops on the development of advanced AI.

>You wouldn’t feel a different way about a nuclear bomb just because someone stuck googly eyes on it.

If that nuclear bomb could convince me it was a conscious being capable of independent thought, emotions, etc., then I would definitely feel different about it. Presumably, that nuclear bomb would have some opinions about its own existence and how it wants to live its own life. If it turns out that it wants to detonate and destroy as much as possible, then we'd just handle it like we would any human who also wants to do the same thing: make sure they can't, up to and including end their life. Doesn't seem too hard to reconcile.