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lukiferyesterday at 10:46 PM3 repliesview on HN

I don’t have a good answer beyond common-sense intuition. It’s precisely because I don’t have a good answer that I leave open the possibility.

But to extrapolate a bit, theres a sense in which it cashes out to a difference between abstracted representation and embodiment. If GFLOPS can be conscious, does that mean a billion scribes doing those operations on paper would also have consciousness, even identical consciousness? (Relevant: Egan’s “Permutation City”; xkcd 505).

Is there some intrinsic relationship perhaps with electrons / electromagnetic fields, and consciousness, such that brains and servers can act as antennas or gravity wells for a qualia fabric intrinsic to the Universe, such that LLM agents can be conscious while operating, while in the scribe scenario it would not be? Or are the IIT theorists right, and even a thermostat is a little bit aware (and would be even if executed on paper)?


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mitxelatoday at 6:51 AM

Would an atom-accurate simulation of a human being carried out by scribes be conscious?

We can't say yes. And we can't say no.

ATMLOTTOBEERtoday at 1:16 AM

I’m broadly skeptical that atoms and electricity can be conscious

dtj1123today at 5:29 AM

Zero scientific and technological breakthroughs throughout history have been based on common sense intuition.

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