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killerstormyesterday at 11:04 PM2 repliesview on HN

Victor put 5+ years of research into this. You can find many of previous versions (which use different approach, do a different kind of a thing, etc.) on the github. "Bend2" in particular have been in development for 2 years.

Calling this "a random vibecoded project" is rather disrespectful, don't you think?

Regarding the paper, he states it clearly "designed by the human author". That's not at all the same as just asking Fable to write a paper. I mean the important thing is ideas, not the way they are described.

Please tell me how "I'm glad you're having fun vibecoding" is not disrespectful?

I thought that you thought Bend web site is all that is to it and wanted to point to relevant information. But if you think that "having fun vibecoding" is an appropriate thing to say to somebody who spent many years doing research, I don't know what else to say.

Again, as a "proof of research" take a look at : https://github.com/VictorTaelin/Interaction-Type-Theory that's 3 year old, pre-dates Fable, but OMG doesn't look like a paper.


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stschaefyesterday at 11:24 PM

Again, very strange

External parties can’t do any meaningful discrimination between human and agent effort when the agent is doing the communicating. One may only read what’s there

I’m not saying that the author is inept or that they have done no work. There can be plenty of great underlying mathematics behind something that is vibecoded.

The reason I worry about the use of agents here is not because it invalidates any ideas or research done by the author; rather, it editorializes and oversells. It presents the claims of the work as an all encompassing solution to all of the worlds problems

There may very well be tons of great ideas here. However as presented, it reads as though the language is the solution to creating vibecoded apps and is equipowerful to state of the art proof assistants while being orders of magnitude more performant. That is a huge claim that has not yet been substantiated, and I do not believe that solely a human is currently making that claim

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etiamztoday at 12:10 AM

> Again, as a "proof of research" take a look at : https://github.com/VictorTaelin/Interaction-Type-Theory that's 3 year old, pre-dates Fable, but OMG doesn't look like a paper.

Yes, it doesn't look like a paper at all. I can see the idea, and it's an interesting idea, but no proofs that it works, no measurements, and no proper citations.

Nobody claims Victor hasn't done a lot of research. But academically inclined people typically expect claims to be substantiated either formally or empirically or both.

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