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HarlequinHairtoday at 7:58 AM1 replyview on HN

Make no mistakes.

LLMs are language model, and nowhere in their code you can find actual reasoning. Re-reinforcement is not magical process that builds conscience or emotions.

We are talking about probability built on statistics, with extea steps.

Stop humanizing LLMs.


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jibaltoday at 8:20 AM

Agents are not simple language models.

You can't find actual reasoning in a brain either. (Note that you can't tell the difference between a conscious brain and a comatose brain by examining them.) This is the same as Leibniz's mill argument ... it's a fallacy of composition.

> Re-reinforcement is not magical process that builds conscience or emotions.

They aren't the result of magic at all, but we are nowhere near the point of identifying what processes do or don't produce consciousness (or a conscience) or can be characterized as having emotions.

> Stop humanizing LLMs.

That's a clearly dishonest mischaracterization of the GP.

I've read some of your other comments about LLMs and I find them unreasonably reductionistic, whereas I think the word "just" should be banned from ontological discussion, so I don't think further engagement would be beneficial and I won't be engaging in it. (And I'm actually quite conservative in ascribing cognitive traits to LLMs or other "AI".)

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