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TZubiriyesterday at 7:35 PM4 repliesview on HN

>" However, various strands of evidence indicate that a"

Strands of evidence? My best guess would be that:

0- this is ai generated slop

1- it's using that watermarking technique

2- it's obviously detectable and degrades quality

3- it's amplified when inferencing on its own content and generates slop


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WithinReasontoday at 6:47 AM

Watermarking doesn't degrade output (this is a provable fact) and it is not detectable by a human reading the text.

EagnaIonattoday at 5:10 AM

I would have more contention with "Dynamic taint", but the paper doesn't appear to be AI slop at all.

As I understand the paper they are saying the reasoning/thinking you see is actually a translation of what is actually going on, and stuff can be lost in the translation. Similar to what was observed in j-space.

akk0yesterday at 8:24 PM

Maybe you shouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions, as "strands of evidence" is not a rare turn of phrase and long predates LLMs

https://ludwig.guru/s/strand+of+evidence

tomjakubowskitoday at 1:00 AM

if Mickens has fallen and resorted to publishing slop then there is no hope for the rest of us