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jasonvorhetoday at 9:52 AM4 repliesview on HN

I think it's quite obvious that journalism is mostly PR for the current things in politics by now. It probably died around 2020 at the latest.


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pjc50today at 10:03 AM

I can give you an exact date: 16 October 2017.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daphne_Caruana_Galizia

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UncleMeattoday at 12:12 PM

This article (https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1996/02/why-ame...) is basically canonical for things wrong with the media and it was written in 96.

cucumber3732842today at 10:01 AM

More like died around 1920, if it was ever alive.

The big difference between the past and now is that today a journalist can presumably get at the "alternative facts" if they try because the internet makes secrecy much leakier much faster and makes circumstantial details more accessible. Contrast with 50yr ago Walter Kronkite had no idea how sketchy the whole Gulf of Tonkin stuff was and even if he did it's not like his employer had people doing OSint to verify things so all he could do was recite is like truth and off to war we went.

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Arodextoday at 12:52 PM

I deeply hate Noam Chomsky for his hypocrisy, but his 80's analysis that the press as a business can't do its job is profoundly right. It got much worse since then.