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2301976yesterday at 12:40 PM3 repliesview on HN

I think we have to distinguish between people who outright post Russian propaganda like Scott Ritter and people like Greenwald and Mearsheimer who say the Ukraine war is a US proxy war and was provoked.

The latter applied to many US (and historically British empire wars, from where the US learned).

Greenwald had a Rumble contract for daily videos during the Biden years, so I think it would be fair to say he was a Trump influencer.

He also has many enemies in Brazil (e.g.. Supreme Judge Moraes), so that video could have come from anywhere.

But yes, he could also have been threatened over the Snowden files earlier.


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root_axisyesterday at 7:32 PM

The consistent through-line of Greenwald's journalism from the Bush era through to the Trump era is an anti-u.s pro Russia narrative.

mopsiyesterday at 4:42 PM

  > I think we have to distinguish between people who outright post Russian propaganda like Scott Ritter and people like Greenwald and Mearsheimer who say the Ukraine war is a US proxy war and was provoked.
The Russian government literally finances Mearsheimer's books. It's written on the title page. Doesn't get any closer to government propaganda than that.
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ekjhgkejhgkyesterday at 3:30 PM

Suppose that I grant you that the Ukraine war was "provoked by the US" - which I most certainly don't. But suppose.

It might still be the case that something is true AND propaganda. Good propaganda has a grain of truth. The key for identifying propaganda isn't "is a statement false?" but "is one of the sides pushing the statement, because it's benefitial for them". In this sense, "the Ukraine war was provoked by the US" would be propaganda even if it were true - which it's not.

That said, I think you have to be proficient at mental gymnastics to believe that the aggressor is actually the victim.

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