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Did OpenAI solve the wrong Navier-Stokes problem?

63 pointsby tomjakubowskitoday at 12:24 AM30 commentsview on HN

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jonlongtoday at 9:00 PM

No, OpenAI did not solve the "wrong" Navier-Stokes problem. OpenAI did not solve the hardest version of the problem (unforced blow-up), but did give a solution to the Clay Millennium Prize Problem as written and understood, choosing the explicitly allowed forced option.

SciAm writes "in a sense, the LLM found and exploited a loophole in the framing of the question". This is pure sensationalism. Choosing option (C) (out of an explicit list of four options) is neither a "loophole" nor something "found by the LLM"; everyone involved knew this was the option they were pursuing.

With the grumbling out the way, there is some actual scientific content to the article: there's a strong argument that OpenAI's method will not extend to the unforced case, leaving our understanding of NS incomplete. This negative result is itself new and interesting (and predicated entirely on the solution found by OpenAI)!

yababa_ytoday at 9:41 PM

I will admit that when I heard they only had forced blowup I went back to sleep (but I've never been more that cursorily interested in analysis).

bmachotoday at 9:47 AM

Article says that there are 2 formulations of the NS problem and both are interesting: one is about fluid behaviour with no external forces, other is about fluid behaviour with external forces.

For a counter-example the latter is easier since you can have a tricky external forcefield.

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ChickeNEStoday at 8:46 PM

So what they are saying is that humans, in this case Charles Fefferman (a math prodigy, going by his history), failed to specify the problem correctly?

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yieldcrvtoday at 9:29 PM

treating LLM's under a separate apartness ruleset isn't going to go well

ollieprotoday at 8:59 PM

Classic example of moving the goal posts. “Exploiting a loophole” is how you solve many great problems in math.

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ActorNightlytoday at 8:48 PM

Betteridge's law of headlines

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davidgudatoday at 12:35 PM

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IshKebabtoday at 8:46 PM

The goalposts are moving so fast you can barely see them!

Next year's headline: But did Skynet kill all humans?

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busssardtoday at 11:08 AM

"AI solved it."

"No we almost solved it."

"No way, it was AI all alone"

"no you used our data for train..."

"Guys, Guys calm! You did not produce any useful results!"

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