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There's a high chance of devices being sold with GrapheneOS preinstalled in 2027

218 pointsby Cider9986today at 5:12 PM100 commentsview on HN

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microtonaltoday at 6:04 PM

Two clarifications:

- This is about preinstallation. For the planned models, you can install GrapheneOS yourself. This should be really simple, if it is similar to the current installation process for Pixels, which can be fully completed through their website.

- The preinstalled devices don't seem from Motorola themselves, as mentioned later in the thread: Probably not via their website but rather another company provided with the devices directly by Motorola. It could be us doing it ourselves but we aren't set up to deal with it.

Really excited for the Motorola GrapheneOS phones! (Currently have a P10P with GrapheneOS.)

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csdreamer7today at 9:35 PM

What I care about is banking app support. Both my credit unions (large, national ones) lock down their phones apps so they do not work on GrapheneOS. Yes, you can install certain Google packages to change that, but no guarantee that will work in the future.

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Cider9986today at 5:18 PM

The upcoming Signature 27 will be announced today at the Snapdragon Summit. It has been teased by Motorola on their socials and will likely release in the US because they've posted about it on US social accounts.

The 2026 Signature, in the UK, is $1460 USD. In Brazil it is selling for $1230. The Pixel 11 pro XL, which the Signature beats on hardware in practically every way sells for $1300 on Google's website.

It looks interesting... I didn't love the 2026 design [1] but it looks better than whatever this is. Here's pictures:

https://xxcancel.com/moto

https://x.com/moto

[1] https://www.motorola.com/gb/en/p/phones/motorola-signature/s...

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mitxelatoday at 7:30 PM

Devices are sold with GrapheneOS preinstalled, just not by GrapheneOS. If your paranoia needs aren't high but you just want to get away from Google, it seems like a good idea.

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penguin_boozetoday at 8:41 PM

Would corporate BYOD and bank apps work, though?

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sigmartoday at 6:20 PM

>Probably not via their website but rather another company provided with the devices directly by Motorola. It could be us doing it ourselves but we aren't set up to deal with it.

I presume this bit is because Motorola can't sell devices with android builds that aren't certified by google (as per Google Mobile Services contracts)

dvhtoday at 8:41 PM

To whom it may concern, I want $100 grapheneos phone.

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movsxtoday at 5:44 PM

Might someone know whether banking apps worldwide will work?

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madducitoday at 6:04 PM

I wish they will bring a €200 device with GrapheneOS out

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monegatortoday at 6:48 PM

Good. Though i hope i'll see GOS for the P11A (expecting it will come out) so i can upgrade my 8A.

i really like the pixels, and haven't been fond of motorolas in recent years

excaliburtoday at 7:39 PM

Will the pre-installed GrapheneOS phones still show up as "rooted" to things like Microsoft Authenticator?

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underliptontoday at 8:22 PM

Are there any GrapheneOS-capable devices that still have an SD card slot and a 3.5mm port? Bonus points if the battery is removable.

I will also accept "Sending my consciousness back to my 2016 body." Better yet, 1996. Got some things I wanna fix.

seanytoday at 6:02 PM

Will they be unlockable?

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ck2today at 6:43 PM

nice

now give me a device with a mechanical switch that gaps the radio power physically

metalmantoday at 6:04 PM

Even if they do sell graphene(android) devices there is still a good chance that it wont be enough to keep a full function linux phone off the market. I would sooner buy a trump phone then graphene, it's not as pretentious and it's more shiny.