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maxlohtoday at 8:02 PM3 repliesview on HN

I don't understand the point of this.

Many (if not all) of the benefits on the landing page are available in Mullvad too, which is a more mature and reputable product, has all clients fully open-source, and powers the exit servers for Obscura.

Why should I choose this over Mullvad?


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dongcarltoday at 8:56 PM

We think Mullvad is a great privacy tool, which is why we partnered with them!

As for what's different: We're a Multi-*Party* Relays (vs. traditional VPNs which are Single-Party Relays): https://www.privacyguides.org/articles/2024/11/17/where-are-...

With Multi-Party Relays you no longer have a trust a single entity not being malicious or compromised. More on this here: https://obscura.com/#how

Also, all our apps are open-source as well: https://github.com/Sovereign-Engineering/obscuravpn-client

Disclaimer: I'm the creator of Obscura.

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maxlohtoday at 8:14 PM

Mullvad is a Swedish company, which has stricter privacy protection laws in place.

According to Obscura's legal page, it is a New York-based company [0]. Under US law, a secretive court order could compel a US company to update software or implement targeted logging on a specific user without notifying that user.

The only scenario where Obscura would be useful is if Mullvad were compromised. Why would I trust a New York company to shield me from a more reputable Swedish company?

[0]: "(2) your written notification must be mailed to 169 Madison Ave.; Ste. 11185 PMB 63183; New York, NY 10016..." https://obscura.com/legal/

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bossyTeachertoday at 8:56 PM

Because its CEO is known as the sponsor of the Orebro party?

1.5k comments discussion for context: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48717469