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ck2 • yesterday at 5:55 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

can we get a car that doesn't self-drive or phone-home?

just replace all the gas burning, oil dripping parts

electric cars also produce way less brake dust particulates, so it's a win all around

just stop trying to make a car a smartphone


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reilly3000 • yesterday at 6:34 PM

At this point I’d pay a significant premium to the dealership and brand that will:

- A. make me an accessor to any datasets (and derivative reports that include my data if you want an extra poisonous pill) that include my data as a full dump and access log of my records and ‘admin’ activities.

- B. Tear out the telemetry hardware, or let me send it to my own endpoint. No satellite access needed. No thanks, driver cam. Who needs LoJack when we have Flock?

- C. Sell a car that’s built to be owned and operated by a human, not an auto brand. If they want to subscribe to some sort of remote assistance subscription, that would be an aftermarket 3rd party device. Open software and hardware within safety protocols increase the value proposition significantly. I would think this is the lowest TCO option, with standard, locally milled parts.

One can dream, right?

someonebaggy • yesterday at 7:01 PM

I think that's what Edison Motors is doing but only for trucks? I don't know how they're getting on now. Maybe they already failed.

You could be the first to make one. I've only heard of Edison because of their social media (so maybe a scam) - but they were showing off how they just bought a random truck and replaced the engine as a prototype

asdff • yesterday at 6:38 PM

>electric cars also produce way less brake dust particulates

Depends. Compared to a competent driver in a manual transmission, I doubt it. Manual transmission cars can brake with the engine instead of brakes. You also may be on the order of 1-2000+lbs lighter.

Then there's tire dust particulate considerations with the heavier EV with all that torque.

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nunez • today at 1:46 AM

i'm actually of the opposite camp...sort of.

I want a dead simple car with the Waymo Driver installed and integrated.

My current car is a 2026 Model Y, but between public transit, Waymo being available in my town, and, soon, me taking possession of a top-of-the-line Brompton electric folding bike, I hardly drive the thing.

When I do drive it, however, I want it to drive itself, since I'm probably driving because I am either (a) going on a road trip that is made more fun by the car driving itself, or (b) am going somewhere that I have to drive to and am wishing the entire time that I wasn't.

mrweasel • yesterday at 6:20 PM

Like the Slate truck, to bad it's impressively expensive for a bare bones car.

https://www.slate.auto/en

timw4mail • yesterday at 6:57 PM

Except for the tire and road wear. The extra weight isn't free.