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matsemann • today at 10:17 AM • 5 replies • view on HN

I don't mind using an LLM while programming. At least the way I use it, I still feel like my experience, knowledge and taste is being utilized to make it better than if I were to vibe it.

What has made me enjoy it less, is having to deal with colleagues' use of it. Sorry to say, but I don't enjoy talking to meat proxies, or getting huge PRs that solve the wrong problem. It's like half the people have turned off their brain. We produce faster, but we don't produce the right stuff.


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lolakutty • today at 11:06 AM

> We produce faster, but we don't produce the right stuff.

Same here...

We commit bad decision, then in the next PR, workaround the bad decision (instead of undoing it), then in the next PR we have to workaround (aka deal with) the initial bad decision + work around...so on and so forth...

And at any point, manually reviewing the changes becomes impossible because you have to reason about the changes keeping all the workarounds and special cases in your mind...

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RunSet • today at 7:06 PM

> At least the way I use it, I still feel like my experience, knowledge and taste is being utilized to make it better than if I were to vibe it.

> What has made me enjoy it less, is having to deal with colleagues' use of it.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Third-person_effect

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joegibbs • today at 10:36 AM

Yeah same here. I feel like I’ve been promoted and not get to manage my own very efficient team that needs a lot of micromanaging. I’ve seen what other people have made without any experience, but I personally feel like I can get my vision done much, much faster, and like I’m not so encumbered by how long it might take to implement some small feature.

In fairness though I never really enjoyed programming for the sake of it, I was always about what you’re getting at the end.

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na1026 • today at 10:41 AM

> It's like half the people have turned off their brain.

LLMs are for people who want to turn off their brain. If you want your team to improve, you should lead by example and stop using LLMs. You need to create an environment where it is unacceptable to turn off your brain. Your underlings will never use LLM tools the way you want them to. LLM tools are designed to be used the way your underlings use them.