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Animats • today at 7:21 PM • 5 replies • view on HN

Plunging physical fitness test scores are even worse.[1] "Fat people don't make good soldiers … they get themselves or others hurt or killed." The US military says 31% of US youth are too fat to serve. 77% are not qualified for one or more reasons.[2]

Only 12% of American male youth who are qualified for the military are not in college.

Think about that. About 2/3 of American male youth are not good enough for either college or the military. That's a high reject rate.

[1] https://www.military.com/daily-news/2018/10/10/one-third-you...

[2] https://www.military.com/daily-news/2022/09/28/new-pentagon-...


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pgryko • today at 7:40 PM

The future of warfare is robotic warfare, specifically large volumes of cheap attritionable autonomous munitions.

Human soldiers are legacy technology that do not fare well against drones, for evidence (obligatory NSFW tag): Check reddit /r/CombatFootage/

Human soldiers are still used extensively on the battlefield - but are in the process of being replaced by machines.

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puzzledobserver • today at 7:47 PM

Did you mean: > Only 12% of American male youth who are __not__ qualified for the military __are__ in college?

Without reading your citations, your argument threw me for a loop.

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armchairhacker • today at 7:33 PM

Why don’t governments pay for free GLPs for everyone overweight? They overrepay for themselves by reducing medical care.

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torginus • today at 7:43 PM

Even before that, I feel like the abolition of conscription has changed the stock of American soldiers (who used to be prime-age males from all walks of life), to a much younger cohort where misfits and lower classes were overrepresented.

I think perception of American military strength rests somewhat on the image of the square-jawed, rugged soldier, which was very much a staple of combat propaganda, but used to be more like an embellishment of the truth, rather than outright fiction.

Video games of the 2000s-2010s, like the CoD series, have usually cast this WW2-Vietnam era image onto the GWOT era, with the heroic characters fighting in the middle-east this time. It was kind of surreal to see actual authentic footage of awkward gangly teens wearing the same uniforms.

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leodler • today at 7:59 PM

Not to downplay the reality of the situation here, but being not qualified in this case just means not being able to walk into a recruiting office and sign a contract without a waiver. The military processes tens of thousands of waivers every year for past legal infractions, tattoo policy exemptions, medical history stuff, etc. Anyone currently taking something like ADHD medication who isn't willing to stop receiving treatment for the condition is ineligible for instance.

It's kind of asinine that one can be demonstrably stable over a long term and do all sorts of things operationally in the intelligence community, but could not even become a 92G (culinary specialist) in the Army.