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someonebaggy • yesterday at 12:47 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

Is arresting someone for (what fact about?) their scooter actually making society better?

Comments like these reinforce my belief that the UK is a panopticon because UK residents sincerely want one and not because the government is corrupt.


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pjc50 • yesterday at 2:19 PM

> (what fact about?) their scooter actually making society better?

- illegal motorbike (ebike not complying with type restrictions)

- no plates (enables evading liability for damage or injury caused)

- underage riders / no license (danger to self and others)

- no helmet (personally I'm least bothered about this, but it is a legal requirement and safety issue if you're doing high speeds on a motorbike without one)

The "no plates" leads to hit-and-run incidents in which people have been seriously injured and a dog killed. There have also been incidents of these underage illegal riders getting themselves killed or seriously injured; while that's their own fault it's not something we should entirely shrug off.

> because UK residents sincerely want one

Yeah, this is kind of a general problem (online ""safety""), but the ebike kids are also a real problem. And not just in the UK.

benbristow • yesterday at 12:57 PM

Yes, they actively make public spaces unpleasant and dangerous. Town centres are on their knees as people don't want to go there anymore due to ASB like this.

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sebzim4500 • yesterday at 1:15 PM

> Is arresting someone for (what fact about?) their scooter actually making society better?

In London people are scooters are often mildly annoying.

>Comments like these reinforce my belief that the UK is a panopticon because UK residents sincerely want one and not because the government is corrupt.

You are correct, despite what you will see on HN/reddit the UK electorate are united only in wanting more authoritarianism at any cost.

smcg • yesterday at 2:12 PM

brexit proved that the UK would rather stab itself than show accord with anyone