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monideas • yesterday at 2:06 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

I don’t think public parks in the 1950s in America were filled with used heroin needles and homeless people strung out or defecating.

You can correct me if I’m wrong though.


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datsci_est_2015 • yesterday at 6:18 PM

Nope, but alcohol consumption was a lot higher, as well as domestic violence. And race-based violence. And opiate production hadn’t industrialized yet.

Given the public policy of the 50s, if the Sacklers had been around, I would imagine a much higher death toll and much more damage to the public welfare than the opiate epidemic of the 2000s.

Probably would’ve put the Opium Wars to shame.

piltdownman • yesterday at 3:40 PM

There definitely was recorded incidence of this - Washington Square Park for example - but the main reason for the difference today was due to vagrancy and loitering laws, as well as 1930s Dust Bowl governance, that no longer exist for human-rights reasons.

Very easy to keep the parks 'beautiful' when you could just shift anyone undesirable to a prison, asylum, or skid row.

N.B. Littering also wasn't seen as a social failing in 50s America, so there's a bit of a juxtaposition there versus the contemporary reality.

dgellow • yesterday at 2:14 PM

From my understanding cities like NYC were actually in a really bad shape in 1950s and after compared to now, until around the 90s

Edit: actually, from what I find in the 1950s there was even ongoing heroin epidemics, in addition to gang warfare, and of course racial inequality

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thinkingtoilet • yesterday at 2:24 PM

Good news! They aren't filled with used heroin needles today as well!