People in companies that are a negative public good are by definition unethical. I'm not surprised by anything they do. The real problem is how we've let these companies infiltrate so much of our society so fast. I can't consume any ad supported media without getting some ad about them. This company really defines the phrase "money talks"

> this company is full of people with absolutely no ethics whatsoever

I believe this applies to any company which sells an inherently harmful, predatory, and addictive product or service

Makes me sick that all of the major-league sports are in bed with companies like Draft Kings, completely ignoring the fact that the next Pete Rose-style scandal — or worse — is absolutely going to happen any time now.

IMHO one shouldn't expect a company to have any ethics to achieve a positive outcome for society. This needs to be baked into the rules (taxes, regulation, ...), so the ethical behavior becomes the rational behavior.

I don’t think anyone ethical really goes into gambling business. I know engineers who left their high paying job in these “gaming” businesses to work for software companies because they see how many lives are destroyed and they are part of that system

Would love to be a fly on the wall in whatever board room in the world has somebody saying “yes, we could increase profits by doing X, but that would be unethical so of course we won’t”

The best thing would be to ban these sites. But barring that, they should be required to have auditing involving secret accounts that display this behavior and see how the app responds. It is crazy that they are allowed to send notifications to users that have set limits and use other techniques to encourage them to transfer more money.

I worked for the "gaming" (as they call themselves) industry.

They seem to have not gotten the memo that they're a legitimate business now.

Hopefully something comes of it. When ProPublica blew open the rent-fixing scam, officials laser-focused on one company that was doing what the entire industry was doing, dragged out prosecution, and then settled for peanuts, with the people whose lives were thrown into upheaval by criminal rent increases *ahem* not seeing a dime. What should have been a major scandal, what should have rocked the housing market, was instead brushed under the rug. And, of course it was, because it would have rocked the housing market.

I'm just saying, don't get your hopes up.

Beautiful and depressing read

The libertarian in me says people should be allowed to make their own choices but I can't negate that gambling in poor is overall significantly negative for society. Before India banned this kind of gambling, I had a firend who worked as a data scientist for Dream11, an online fatasy cricket like gambling app. He was able to see a lot about the people playing. Oftentimes, the daily 'ticket size' was somewhere around 100-300INR (about $1-3), these were folks earning maybe 1.5 to twice that at the most. Their kids were often going hungry so their parents could play.

Are people with ethics going to seek out jobs in the gambling industry, especially mobile addictionware gambling?

I'd work in weapons before I'd work in this. At least those are usually used against military targets and overall hurt or kill fewer people. A rocket might blow up one school, but this will destroy millions of families.

> this company is full of people with absolutely no ethics whatsoever.

I have bad news for you about venture capital firms, one of which owns the website we’re posting on

fork found in kitchen

I mean what do we expect ???? "the house" is playing fair ????

we literally have mobile game that have "gacha" which is full blown gamble and we pretend that the actual "online casino" is to play moral, ethics or fairness ??

we literally past that point ages ago

Society (i.e us) is to blame. We made this stuff legal. There was no need whatsoever. We don't get to blame the people working at these companies.

"presenting signs"...there is no way for DK to tell that someone is addicted, which is the same error of logic in the original article.

There are multiple companies that will take your money and data and say they have found a way of identifying gamblers, afaik none of these products actually or can work.

What that article showed is: someone uses a product, they do not activate any features to use the product safely, and then they it is unsafe. DK have safety features integrated with governments already in the product.