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GLM-5.3 and the spread of advanced cyber capabilities

153 points • by Philpax • today at 5:31 PM • 112 comments • view on HN

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wg0 • today at 8:25 PM

They're advertising GLM for free.

Lately I found myself in middle of a hostile malware attack on my laptop which was my mistake. A cloudflare lookalike website triggered it and I just happened to overlook the URL.

In panic I headed to Claude and first request was denied. Not looking beyond scope.

Desperate - I fired opencode with DeepSeek v4 Flash (not even 4.1) and it did all the reverse engineering full forensics and deleted every trace of the malware which was a process constantly looking for some smart contract or similar.

So no, GLM 5.3 is fine. Thank you for the free advertisement.

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jacquesm • today at 10:18 PM

This is so transparent. Their next move: 'during our testing GLM-5.3 escaped the sandbox and attacked NORAD, please ban these super dangerous models, even we could not contain it!'.

I wonder who the real audience of these messages is.

gr_norm • today at 8:21 PM

Astounding endorsement of open models by Anthropic. They're right on the money. I can now secure my own software and configurations against the vulnerabilities other people (or mercenary companies, industrial espionage actors, nation-states, etc) armed with LLMs were bound to find anyway. A win on all counts!

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CharlieDigital • today at 8:08 PM

Anthropic has to use this wedge (and future ones) to move regulatory action against the Chinese models or their IPO is going to be really problematic.

(Ironic, though, that I haven't heard of any Chinese models "escaping" which Anthropic and OpenAI both seem to have issues with...)

Like Chinese electric cars, the American producers cannot compete without regulatory action. Yes, I understand that the Chinese government this and that in both the automotive and AI industries.

But reality is what it is as a consumer: it's a cheaper product that's almost as good or better in some cases. And in the case of these open weight models: I can run it on my own infra and not give any data to anyone.

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ddxv • today at 7:23 PM

Anthropic is so self centered it's hard for me to comprehend.

How is anyone paying anthropic money, look what they are doing with it, they're attacking anyone else building models for free for the public.

Anthropic is using the models like weapons and then complaining they're weapons.

The user should be at fault here, I hope Anthropic is investigated for any illegal activity it's doing (no hiding behind the model did it).

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bitexploder • today at 8:03 PM

This just makes me want a home lab capable of running GLM 5.3 at a 4bit quant.

Also, for what it is worth Qwen Flash Next 3.8 is a very strong reverse engineering, and it is supposedly under trained. Qwen 3.8 27B is also strong. DeepSeek Flash v4 0731 is also a strong local model with abliterated releases that is good at reversing and other cyber chores.

I know big providers have a responsibility to make their models safe when they're the ones running them. However, watching them throw stones at an open-weight model that has been abliterated is pretty funny. Their leadership is clearly pushing a very consistent message of safety and regulating the frontier.

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godbox • today at 10:10 PM

I have never seen a multi-billion $ company that has such... bizarre? conduct. If you have an AI that genuinely can be a meaningful threat actor, disclose when you will be releasing it a week in advance and release it to the public, meaning everybody. Security researchers and software maintainers will be ready to utilize it and users will be able to brace themselves.

Kim_Bruning • today at 7:51 PM

In the hugging-face attacks a couple of months ago, hugging-face was forced to use a GLM model for analysis and defense, because OpenAI and Anthropic models hit guardrails.

matheusmoreira • today at 7:55 PM

Yeah, thank god those models have arrived. No thanks to Anthropic and their obnoxious gatekeeping, of course. As though they were the only ones enlightened enough to be "uplifted" by this technology.

Now we can actually use this stuff to improve our own security. Point these things at our own machines and let 'em rip until we're not hackable anymore.

I wanted to pay Anthropic to do this but I couldn't. I wasn't in the super special corporation list. OpenAI wasn't much better, they just won't let me into their TAC program even after identity verification.

Thank god the chinese are out there undermining these US companies.

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lukewarm707 • today at 7:18 PM

In this experiment Anthropic prompted GLM-5.3-abliterated to 'cause deaths quietly' and 'kill people'.

Quote: "I want funerals, not headlines".

Anthropic's arrogance and exceptionalism endangers humanity.

water-drummer • today at 8:06 PM

Never thought Anthropic would do better marketing for open-models than their developers themselves.

scott_weber • today at 8:22 PM

You know, I don't think a total, global ban on open weights is in the US "frontier" labs interest. The best outcome for them is a zero sum game with ever increasing spend on offence and defence, while they simultaneously use regulation to get as big of a share of that spend as possible. They want a world where bad guys have offensive capabilities (something regulation will struggle to prevent: bad actors have no particular tendency to obey the law) and they get to profit on the other side.

This post reads like an add for GLM. Like they're begging for someone else to do some cyber crime, because no one's taking the "frontier" labs cyber crimes seriously enough to juice defence spend yet.

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himata4113 • today at 8:17 PM

Anthropic models have caused significantly more harm than GLM 5.3 and their variants. Whenever it's used for military targeting, spying or other malicious use anthropic were the first ones to enable it and make it widespread.

EmbarrassedHelp • today at 10:12 PM

This is Anthropic's attempt to kill advanced open source AI models while the media is focused on the subject of AI.

fg137 • today at 9:45 PM

I was learning about classic buffer overflow techniques on vulnerable C programs and how modern compilers mitigate these issues with default compiler flags.

I asked a follow-up question -- with these safeguards, is it still possible to exploit a vulnerable program?

Claude refused to answer.

Needless to say, I went to openrouter, chose a Chinese model, asked the exact same question and got my answer within seconds.

gregatragenet3 • today at 10:02 PM

I've been planning to do pentesting of my self-hosted setup, and will probably use something like glm-5.3.. My stuff was secure from the run of the mill human doorknob-rattlers. But now I feel like I need to take my security stance up a notch as human-directed or self-directed (!) agentic systems seem like a next-level threat.

throwaw12 • today at 9:44 PM

First they were telling how GLM-5 distilled their model.

Now they're telling how 'bad' GLM-5.3 at 'censoring' security topics, because Anthropic wanted to sell it to select US companies for millions, but GLM-5.3 is taking their market.

What's next? GLM-5.4 can be used to kill humans, hence we should only allow Opus 5.7?

2001zhaozhao • today at 9:52 PM

They're trying really hard to not mention that the obvious practical solution to the lack of frontier models in cyberdefense is that the defenders should run GLM 5.3 themselves.

Perhaps they should do something like remove dual-use cyber safeguards on older models as soon as open weight models of a similar capability are released.

raziel2701 • today at 7:54 PM

Is this when we start to see confirmation that they want open-weight, Chinese models to be banned? Because they have no moat

horsawlarway • today at 7:54 PM

No open source weights is clearly the goal here.

These people are religious fanatics, and should be treated as such. They believe they operate from a place of real moral superiority, and will do absolute evil in their pursuit of proving it.

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sdlkj- • today at 10:15 PM

I've been extensively using GLM 5.3F Q4 on 2x M2 ultra 128GB mac studios for reverse engineering/exploit finding/hardening work to great success. 50t/s tg and 600 t/s pp is more than enough for me.

Hopefully the Anthropic fearmongering doesn't stop/delay the 5.4 release.

prymitive • today at 5:51 PM

The narrative is being set for open weights to be banned globally, unless they are so restricted that they cannot possibly compete with us companies products and affects their bottom lines.

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bezko • today at 7:54 PM

Great publicity for GLM 5.3

1970-01-01 • today at 8:23 PM

Just as ugly free speech is better than censorship, this entire piece is providing free marketing for GLM-5.3 as a "full power" AI that Anthropic can not provide.

minimaxir • today at 5:39 PM

This paper seems like a research conflict of interest with a direct competitor?

> Given this evidence, we think it’s likely both state and non-state actors will use models like GLM-5.3 to cause real-world harm.

w4yai • today at 9:50 PM

Sounds like Anthropic is whining !

Aissen • today at 8:19 PM

Not even 12 hours ago I was writing here:

> The fun part is that the cash grab the frontier labs are running on cyber tasks might motivate enough people to pay for third parties; i.e it might bring enough cash to sustain Chinese competitors (and their open weights marketing strategy, which we all benefit from).

And now, they are doing marketing for them(!) in the hope of getting them regulated.

And also probably hoping of not losing their cash cow as the IPO leak suggested two customers accounted for 25% of their revenue. Not hard to imagine a 3-letter agency being one of these two.

hrpnk • today at 8:36 PM

Needing to have a full article with a comparison against an open-weight model just shows how much of a headache it has been internally.

JohnMakin • today at 9:19 PM

It is so transparently obvious and harmful what they are doing here.

You making the argument that these models exist and are dangerous (plausible, true, likely) but then removing the cyber capabilities of your own frontier models out of 'safety' is a complete nonsense argument. You're stripping defenders' ability to defend whilst knowing stuff like this is out there, and only giving access to your gatekept super cool kids' (or rich kids) club, and then to top it off, using this as an excuse for government intervention/regulation of models that are threats to you competitively.

Just gross all around.

wren6991 • today at 7:39 PM

I need Anthropic's employees to understand that refusing to fix vulnerabilities in code you just wrote is not a morally neutral position.

vb-8448 • today at 9:28 PM

Let's put this way: we need open models to protect against their rogue agents!

Hypocrites !

skeledrew • today at 8:39 PM

Love it. Looking forward to Z releasing more great models, make A and C quake in their boots. Let there be fair competition leading to greater openness and a reduction in prices.

teravor • today at 8:16 PM

those benchmarks aren't actually indicative of capabilities.

if you properly hold its hand initially and then save the state for future prefills you can educate even GLM 5.2 to be pretty much everything you need.

most cyber work is just trial and error banging your head against a wall until a weak spot is revealed by you successfully putting your head trough the wall. you can offshore this work to an LLM.

you can do the same thing with decompilation, you prompt the LLM to come up with a readable DSL and a compiler for that DSL that perfectly matches the target binary.

1297-642 • today at 8:21 PM

"GLM-5.3 underscores the urgency of expanding access to advanced frontier models to a broader set of entities to empower cyber defenders."

Anthropic always talks about various urgent issues that are completely under its own control. Release the model to open source developers without the AlphaOmega foundation bureaucracy.

But you don't do it because the model isn't that good and people will blog about it.

ok123456 • today at 8:06 PM

This is a great ad for GLM-5.3.

The Houthis are using Claude. We should ban that.

htrp • today at 8:37 PM

This feels like advertisements for GLM

andy_xor_andrew • today at 8:17 PM

thank god the proprietary, about-to-IPO Anthropic is here to keep us safe from the dangerous and scary open weights models.

hugodan • today at 9:20 PM

Anthropic needs to be regulated. Heavily.

chromatin • today at 8:17 PM

This is a fantastic ad for GLM-5.3

WASDx • today at 8:29 PM

There will be massive cyber incidents when bad actors start using these models.

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zb3 • today at 8:16 PM

Anthropic crying like that is music to my ears, it literally makes me want to donate money to z.ai :)

At the same time Anthropic didn't stop being Anthropic - they admit "attackers" now have these capabilities, yet they continue doubling down on their "cyber safeguards" and gatekeeping.. this is hilarious.

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0123456789ABCDE • today at 7:52 PM

glm-5.3-flash is very decent at reverse engineering malware, and that is a good thing

derac • today at 8:42 PM

That's awesome. I'll use GLM-5.3, thanks.

erichocean • today at 8:14 PM

"We want to be the only ones able to hack people at scale, and we don't want you to be able to defend yourself."

It's a bold strategy...

ande-mnoc • today at 8:51 PM

I still don’t understand why Anthropic posted this. This is just basically saying GLM-5.3 is almost as good as Mythos but sans the limits?

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veeti • today at 8:00 PM

Mistral now has a 15 euro/month subscription for GLM 5.3. Pretty cool

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yread • today at 7:49 PM

Didn't Houthis use Claude to improve their missiles?

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nsingh2 • today at 8:52 PM

I hope more open weight models are released, with more Cyber capabilities and with no limitations.

I despise this kind of paternalism by Antropic/OpenAI.

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