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Revanche1367 • yesterday at 9:17 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

Great, so they _finally_ decided to add a non-flash model and it's not available to regular subscribers for an indefinite period. What's the point of paying for the AI Ultra plan? Anthropic doing the same with Fable as far as I know, OpenAI at least allows Pro plan subscribers to use Astra. I subscribe to Gemini AI Ultra and ChatGPT Pro, and have enterprise access to Claude at work. To be fair, Gemini's flash models since at least 3.6 have been quite useful for non-complex work, but for any task where there is a bit of complexity involved, I've had to check and recheck the work multiple times myself or sometimes with another LLM to get it to follow plans accurately. It's disappointing to see yet another Gemini release ignore adding newer pro models.

Edit: seems I was wrong about Anthropic restricting Fable, I guess our enterprise plan doesn't include it. But, the block from Anthropic regarding Mythos for regular subscribers/enterprise-users is still true I think.


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murkt • yesterday at 9:23 PM

Fable is available for a couple of months and even got an update on 1st of September. It’s really good, but since Opus 5.5 was released, there is not much point in using Fable anymore

aqme28 • yesterday at 9:32 PM

As we’ve seen from the leaked Anthropic prospectus, revenue from actual users is a pittance. What really matters is what you can get from investors, and that you have a model smart enough for self-improvement.

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glzone1 • today at 4:32 AM

We have access to fable on enterprise. It works well, but do you really need to pay that much. Opus 5.5 has been performing well for us, so we're mostly standardizing on that.

csomar • today at 8:07 AM

I opened my Google account to check the model and honestly have no idea how to access it, whether it exists or not, what is Google AI, what is Gemini, what models are available, where the chatbot is, where the API is, etc..

Honestly, who is in charge of this? How do people even subscribe and make sense of any of this?

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