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HeavenFox • today at 7:58 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

I am Chinese living in America.

All the authors observations ring true, and they all stem from one simple fact: China was a very poor country just forty years ago, and even today is only a middle income country.

The uncomfortable truth is a lot of the things westerners take for granted are, in fact, luxuries. Arts and creativity is a luxury. Freedom to pursue passion is a luxury. Compassion is a luxury. Self-esteem is a luxury. If you barely have enough food to feed your family, as a significant number of Chinese people were in the 60s and 70s, you cannot afford any of these.

China has grown richer at a remarkable rate, but the mentality shift can take generations.


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bettercallsalad • today at 8:44 PM

This is a helpful insight.

My counter argument though is how the elite class have a certain scarcity mentality and still holds on to these observations made in the articles.

In college, I dated a few Asian (Mainland) who all had similar mindset. Dating wasn’t about finding the right match but more about “upgrade your social face being accepted by foreigners”. It was shockingly weird at the beginning until the pattern was obvious. They were all wealthy (paying international tuition) I would think so the scarcity mindset you speak of seems like should have waned off at a local proximity (family or social circle).

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10000truths • today at 8:24 PM

> Arts and creativity is a luxury. Freedom to pursue passion is a luxury.

Sure.

> Compassion is a luxury. Self-esteem is a luxury.

No. These are virtues, not luxuries. You don't need a high income to be compassionate or have self-esteem.

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lenerdenator • today at 8:25 PM

I would say that compassion is not a luxury; it's a necessity for human society to operate.

Societies thrive when humans cut each other a little slack. They die when people are constantly looking for ways to take advantage of others.

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sublinear • today at 8:06 PM

I think this also leads to the most important observation of our time: progress is now much more difficult to measure and the control over the narrative is fierce.

This entire century of media has been an endless splitting of hairs and casting of doubts.

esafak • today at 8:44 PM

Was the mentality different when Imperial China was rich, and will it change again as it becomes richer?

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keybored • today at 8:17 PM

> The uncomfortable truth is a lot of the things westerners take for granted are, in fact, luxuries.

This is supposed to be uncomfortable? Why? Most inter-national discussions here are about how their country is better because they have bigger houses, more toys, and how they can remain oblivious to how the rest of the world works because of how good their “soft” or “hard” power is at managing the rest of the world.