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cavoirom • yesterday at 1:56 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

I could argue LLM only have "token" as their perceivable dimension, compare to human multiple senses as the physic perceivable dimension and a brain with many other dimension of "learning" and "thinking". In spoken language, we may not have 'r' but in written we have, both spoken language and written language are learned skills.


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scratcheee • yesterday at 2:19 PM

You could argue in return that humans only have electro-chemistry as our one perceivable dimension. We only indirectly perceive light through the signals our eyes send to our brains.

In my mind general intelligence is pretty much by definition a virtual machine, so the mechanisms behind thought are only relevant for the sake of efficiency (ie you can argue that LLMs make a poor basis for intelligence because tokens and natural language are a poor way to encode the world, but if you can run it on a big enough computer to counteract the inherent wasteful virtualisation then who really cares how it works under the hood?)

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azornathogron • yesterday at 2:10 PM

Is "token" a directly perceivable unit for the LLM? If you ask it "how many tokens are in this sentence?" can it count them (again, not guessing or making a tool call)?

I've never tried it and it might take some thought and effort to conduct an experiment to find out properly, but I would be interested in the answer.

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