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ericmcer • today at 7:34 PM • 7 replies • view on HN

The Neanderthal extinction always made me think that erasure of races in our modern times will follow a similar pattern. People think of the Native Americans as getting wiped out by disease/violence over a few years, but their ultimate end (and every other races end) probably will be similar to Neanderthals: slowly getting bred out of existence until finding someone with >2% DNA is a novelty. Same thing will probably happen to any smaller populations as globalization/interbreeding means massive populations like China/India will end up being the majority of the DNA.


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ricksunny • today at 7:42 PM

Yes but draw an arbitrary line around any group. Call them HNdrathals if you want. Define them at one instaneous snapshot in time as 100% conserved gene corpus. Then watch generation after generation, as some of the HNers (against all odds) interbreed with the surrounding populace. After one hundred generations, should we expect many people to be more than 2% HNdrathal? Yet did the HNdrathals ‘die out’?

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naet • today at 8:20 PM

I'm always surprised at the opposite. We have such distinct ethnicities. It feels like everyone should be mixed race, but so few are.

I will grant that by some historic definitions you could consider many people mixed race as neighboring cultures combine. But there are still very large and distinctly separate ethnic groups like black, white, asian, etc.

(I am not mixed race by my wife and son are)

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453yuh46 • today at 9:07 PM

The only DNA genes we have are coming from Middle East contact of Neanderthals with Homo Sapiens. There was no bred out of the extinction event, specific to Neanderthals only, as we are missing also majority of DNA of those early Homo Sapiens.

Races has nothing to do with any of that - Neanderthals themselves seems to had different looks, depending on region they were living and had contacts with other humans - and we all were the same species.

icantevenhold • today at 9:19 PM

As someone else commented “race” is not a scientific concept; it’s more about vibes

rayiner • today at 8:11 PM

With neanderthals it was physical factors. With groups in modern times it’ll probably be cultural factors. Many groups have panda-like reproductive preferences.

fooker • today at 8:13 PM

Yes, unless some natural or anthropogenic disaster makes it impossible to visit other continents.

Funnily enough, stopping this 'race mixing' is one of the explicit goals of some pretty horrible people and they have historically tried all sorts of things from eugenics to genocide.

I'd not put it past someone in the future to try and end modern industrial civilization to this end.

prmoustache • today at 10:07 PM

Native American is not a race.