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Stitch4223 • yesterday at 10:19 PM • 8 replies • view on HN

“Some people” arguments always hold true.

Old classmates back in the day used to hate the 128 × 128 px icons macOS shipped. A waste of space for eye candy.

12 GB is at most 4.68% of your Mac. Improving on Apple Intelligence is something of value, as is consumerizing local-first AI.

We’re not talking adware here.


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quaddoggy • today at 12:59 AM

Yes, but it’s death by a thousand cuts. I encourage you to see how much BS space is taken up by iMovie or Live Photos or whatever on your iPhone. If every team at Apple wants their percentage you end up with less.

isityettime • today at 12:17 AM

5% is huge. And the way app bundles work on macOS, tons and tons of disk space gets burned up for each application relative to on an OS like Linux distros, so each GB doesn't go as far in the first place.

It's also not the full extent of disk usage by built-in apps which aren't removable by normal means on macOS. An empty macOS installation is like 35 GB. NixOS is not known for being particularly space efficient, but 30-40 GB is how much space I use on it for the OS and all applications, including a ton of developer tools, on my graphical systems. For the base OS with a full fat desktop environment, most Linux distros have you looking at less than 10 GB. So this comes as a massive increase on an OS that already burns a ton of disk space before you even get to touch it.

samudrijan • yesterday at 11:12 PM

That’s a whole 4% of my disc. Get that out of there.

appletrotter • yesterday at 11:20 PM

Apple's AI and harnesses are trash and a complete waste of space

Also suggesting that sacrificing 1/20 of your disk space is NBD is crazy. I have to prune space on my drive all the time because macs ship with the least amount of disk space that apple imagines they can get away with as possible.

bloqs • yesterday at 11:41 PM

4% of my disk on a computer with soldered storage hardware?

Is the marketing really getting this good?

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verandaguy • yesterday at 10:31 PM

    > Improving on Apple Intelligence is something of value
Not if you didn't use apple intelligence in the first place (and/or aren't interested in using it going forward).

    > as is consumerizing local-first AI
If and only if there is actual demand for it. If most users do not want this, it's a bad feature.
groundzeros2015 • yesterday at 11:22 PM

Are you arguing that the icons did not occupy a scarce resource that could have been used for other things? Or that the value is so obvious it we worth it?

athoneycutt • yesterday at 11:37 PM

Useful or not there should be an option to turn it off and get space back (plus avoid LLM) if you want.