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fasterik • yesterday at 6:04 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

I'm still puzzled that people's default assumption isn't that somebody is reading all of their internet communications. Ever since the Snowden revelations of 2013 I've more or less assumed that everything I type into a computer is stored in a government database somewhere. Not that I actually believe it is 100% of the time; there's a spectrum of trust, so I'm more confident that local apps on my Linux desktop are secure, somewhat confident in the end-to-end encryption of certain apps on my iPhone, but all bets are off for non-E2E encrypted data going across the internet.


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autoexec • yesterday at 11:13 PM

> I'm more confident that local apps on my Linux desktop are secure

Why should you be? Linux gives us software we can reasonably say we own, but not hardware. Everything you type into your local linux apps can be being monitored by your processor and whatever is sitting in the CSME/PSP subsystem which you don't have permission to access, but which is always running even when your computer is off. We need fully open, documented, auditable hardware if allowing any third party access to our devices means our private documents will make us all into criminal suspects.

fn-mote • yesterday at 6:23 PM

People don’t want to believe the Stasi is monitoring them. They want to believe the world is a nice place just like where they grew up.

Also, unlike the bad old days when 1 in 3 was an informant, now ordinary people aren’t in “informant loop” of providing information on others, so they aren’t thinking about being informed on either.

Dylan16807 • yesterday at 7:47 PM

If we completely give up on assuming privacy, we lose even more privacy, because so much is based on the expectations of a "reasonable person".

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ToucanLoucan • yesterday at 6:22 PM

For technical people, this is incredibly old news.

For non-technical people, it isn't really news, because they already forgot about it after reading it. Maybe they'll be a little more monitored in their own typing for like... a day or two.

One of the hardest lessons to internalize, and keep internalized, as someone who works on and writes software, is the vast, vast, vast majority of the Public doesn't understand even the most basic shit about software. It just does stuff. Hopefully the stuff is good. That's it, beginning, middle, and end.

"Why would you think x would y" is a poor framing. They didn't think about x or y because they don't care. The phone works, that's the beginning and end of their interest in the subject.

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