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onlyrealcuzzo • today at 7:49 PM • 7 replies • view on HN

This appears to be larger than DeepSeek v4.1 Flash, more expensive to run, and worse on every measured metric.

Am I missing something?


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swiftcoder • today at 8:25 PM

> Am I missing something?

It's pretty clear from their framing ("Beam advances the Western open-weight frontier") that one of their main selling points is not being a Chinese lab.

I can't imagine that mattering to many individuals, but I guess someone out there has a government contract that forbids the use of foreign models

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dotancohen • today at 8:08 PM

We're still at the stage where every new entrant is welcome in my opinion. Doesn't need to be record-breaking upon initial release.

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vanuatu • today at 8:59 PM

Reflection is explicitly marketed as the 'US' DeepSeek

seems like they are aiming to provide both inference and RLaaS for american companies and western govts. even if they never fully beat deepseek if they get close enough the fact that they're American will help them close deals

aizk • today at 8:59 PM

Yes it's (hopefully) not distilled from every single major American provider.

jstummbillig • today at 8:09 PM

Apparently there is more to making good models than copying everything on the internet.

Centigonal • today at 8:23 PM

new entrant in this weight class, US lab.

martini333 • today at 8:00 PM

Beam goes brrrr