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theturtletalks • yesterday at 2:20 AM • 9 replies • view on HN

With LLMs becoming prevalent, it seems people are “quitting” their projects more quickly. Not necessarily a bad thing, but just shows that the opportunity cost is too high right now if you’re building the wrong thing. Deno isn’t the wrong thing, but LLMs don’t reach for it and that’s a huge blow right now.


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doginasuit • yesterday at 4:08 AM

> Deno isn’t the wrong thing, but LLMs don’t reach for it and that’s a huge blow right now.

This only matters if you don't know what you are doing. LLMs can work with any tool. I'm working with a very unconventional stack and the LLM seems right at home.

NetOpWibby • yesterday at 6:43 AM

LLMs don't reach for it because the frontier companies don't have it as the default. I've instructed Claude to NOT use React (use SvelteKit), NOT use Node (use Deno or Bun), among other things.

The industry defaults are trash but it is what it is.

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adamddev1 • yesterday at 6:44 AM

This is part of how LLMs are hurting progress. People are moved away from things like StackOverflow or new projects where they pose and answer questions with real people, or create novel things, and pushed more and more to whatever answers or solutions the LLMs will spit out for them.

evbogue • yesterday at 2:38 PM

I just throw Deno into my agents file and it gets installed in whatever environment I'm working in.

However, the truth is that writing isomorphic javascript programs in the age of agentic coding is much less important to me than it was a few years ago.

lionkor • yesterday at 8:31 AM

> LLMs don’t reach for it

Please excuse my language, but that's only the case if you're a complete imbecile and can't write a for loop to save your life.

An LLM doesn't "reach" for anything, because you tell it what to do. You go "use this tool, to do that thing, in this way, here's a bunch of written guidance on how exactly to do that, and if you run into issues ask me". Any other use is glorified copy-paste slop code and will end up with a worse codebase than if you let an egomaniac run amok on a single codebase for 20 years.

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lukan • yesterday at 2:59 AM

"Deno isn’t the wrong thing, but LLMs don’t reach for it and that’s a huge blow right now"

Well, in my case I suddenly had deno installed, while letting run fable in auto mode, even node was already there and I had to look up what deno was. "Ah, that node replacement."

sheept • yesterday at 6:30 AM

I added a wrapper script around Deno to my agent’s allowlist to take advantage of its permissions system, and instructed it to use Deno instead of Python or bash commands. It’s worked pretty well.

mahboi • yesterday at 8:00 AM

Shouldn't be an issue. Like LLMs don't reach for uv, but they will if you make it clear you want to use uv.

NamlchakKhandro • yesterday at 12:18 PM

sounds like you don't know about agent skills yet.