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OroPla • yesterday at 1:41 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

The "natural" state of the universe is having no life at all. And once our sun implodes this region of the universe will cease to be an exception.

Instead of trying to perform a balancing act with nature we should just continue to shape things into things that are more convenient to us. Like redirecting water into a desert.


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rwyinuse • yesterday at 9:11 PM

It would be highly convenient for us to stop pumping so much greenhouse gases into the atmosphere, to keep climate stable for food production. But we're incapable of even that, even though technology to get rid of most fossil fuel use exists.

When this is the status quo, I'm not very hopeful of humankind's general capability to control the nature in ways that ultimately benefit us.

jna_sh • yesterday at 2:04 PM

The article clearly spells out why this wouldn’t be in our favour: functional ecosystems provide services to humanity that we need, and those ecosystems need biodiversity to effectively provide those services. The idea that destroying these systems is “more convenient to us” is very flawed

corps_and_code • yesterday at 1:54 PM

There must be myriad unintended consequences that would come with dumping a whole bunch of water into a desert though? It feels like there's an awful lot of hubris in thinking we could accurately predict all the changes that would cause and know it would have a net positive outcome.

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barbazoo • yesterday at 2:12 PM

The behavior you're describing has already brought us close to the planetary boundaries of our own existence in the last century or two. Plenty of second order effects to our actions.

esarbe • yesterday at 2:33 PM

That's conjecture.

For all we know the universe could be teeming with life, in whatever shape or form. And since we see the first signs of life about 500 million years after the plant was formed, there's a good argument to be made that life doesn't need much more than a stable energy gradient and some basic building blocks to get started.

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arbitrary_name • yesterday at 3:46 PM

i think this is a dumb take that does not withstand any scrutiny whatsoever.