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altairprime • last Wednesday at 5:45 PM • 11 replies • view on HN

In the Twitter thread linked, the person confirms two things:

1. It saturated the local network with 1TB of metadata sniffing scans, not the network uplink to the outside world.

2. It does so because, as Keurig notes, it’s collecting data about your household in order to let Keurig sell it to advertisers.


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khriss • yesterday at 9:52 PM

> as Keurig notes, it’s collecting data about your household in order to let Keurig sell it to advertisers.

WTF!! When did we land in the middle of a Black Mirror episode?

I'm half convinced the first run of the LHC split the timeline and we've landed in the evil one.

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ultrahax • yesterday at 11:06 PM

One of the reasons that all this stuff goes in its own IOT crap VLAN in my house.

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jimrandomh • yesterday at 10:47 PM

It doesn't sound plausible to me that the main buyers of this information would be advertisers. It sounds more likely that the buyers are black-hat hackers, or intelligence agencies. The main reason someone would want a map of all of the devices behind your home router is so they know what to target first for exploitation, if they want access.

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Grombobulous • yesterday at 1:19 AM

I don’t dispute the purpose of the data collection, but I can’t believe this quantity of data collection is intentional.

There’s no way Keurig is has the intention of paying the kind of costs required to collect a terabyte of data every two weeks for millions of people who own their coffee makers.

There must be some kind of bug here. I imagine if you unplugged it and plugged it in again the data usage would settle down.

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dovin • yesterday at 8:58 PM

That's obviously bad and I hate it, but how much value even is there is the data that a spyware coffee machine could collect about your home? What advertisers would buy such data and what would they advertise to me? What is the marginal value of that data?

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whycome • last Wednesday at 7:06 PM

Why is this allowed? There’s no way to consent to a coffee machine.

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mahboi • yesterday at 10:58 PM

As in, port scanning or ARP spam or what? Twitter randomly decided I'm a bot

AnimalMuppet • last Wednesday at 9:04 PM

To me, this is begging for a class-action lawsuit.

Yeah, sure, the terms of service probably say that they can do that. That's still in "unconscionable" territory. And courts do not like unconscionable contracts. If it's unconscionable, it's invalid (if I understand the law correctly).

Is this why everybody wants to make appliances with wireless?

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KellyCriterion • yesterday at 9:48 AM

Reg 2:

But why do they need to collect 1 TB? Sounds like a lot of redundant/doublicated entries then for a small network?

rasz • last Wednesday at 11:21 PM

> as Keurig notes, it’s collecting data about your household in order to let Keurig sell it to advertisers.

its LGs glass in LG household, and now Keurigs kitchen

lazide • last Wednesday at 6:51 PM

#1 - why? #2 - oh, because fucking yikes.