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computerex • yesterday at 9:02 PM • 1 reply • view on HN

What is your evidence? Deepseek v4.1 Flash is by far the most popular coding model on openrouter, having processed 38.7T tokens in just the last 7 days, over 3x the usage of the 2nd rank model.

So I ask again, what are you basing your assertion on?


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doctorpangloss • yesterday at 9:40 PM

my own usage of deekseep v4.1 flash, and that among the dozens of great programmers i know, not a single person is using it

BUT. they are employed to do / deciding-to-do authentic (if often meaningless) stuff.

here's a short list of inauthentic activity that claude and openai refuse to do:

- chat services that, when you ask them, say they are not chatbots when they are

- code to work around software licenses or DRM

- code to scrape or download copyrighted material

- directly cheating on homework

- adopting a persona in social media that spreads misinformation or propaganda

this is but a short list. but ask me, "are there enough inauthentic activity demands such that someone who CANNOT USE claude or gpt as the LLM would use dsv4.1 on openrouter instead?" yes. i mean there are whole countries right now where the culture can be summarized as, "bottom to top, inauthentic activity." i am surprised it is not more usage!

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