alt Hacker NewsOpenAI fires three safety researchers for "mishandling research information"
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Fired OpenAI researchers say they were let go for 'prioritising safety'
I can see parallels between this race to push AI everywhere and nuclear energy. Parallels in the regret humanity will experience. It's all well and good until things go wrong, and then they go spectacularly wrong - such as in Fukushima.
With hindsight we can all see what should have been done better. At least with nuclear power plants, there was a number of safeguards and it took a sequence of improbable events for things to go badly wrong. Given the lackadaisical approach to "AI safety", I suspect things will start going badly wrong very soon. Time will tell how bad this will get.
Pretty wild that they're being this open about firing the employees for being TOO honest with the auditors that the company contracted. I wonder if the same policies are applied to financial audits.
> continue to support an open and transparent culture of dialogue between safety researchers and the rest of the safety ecosystem.
How is this possible when the company's long term prospects rely on on the hope that competitors don't know how the models are made and, therefore, won't be able to create competing versions?
OpenAI responded on twitter earlier:
"A note from our research leaders:
Last week we parted ways with Jasmine, Mikita, and Tomek after a thorough investigation found they violated clear policies on handling sensitive information. Our internal investigation uncovered a significant breach of trust beyond what’s outlined in the letter they published and we stand by the decision to not continue their employment. We generally keep individual employment matters private and don't believe a back and forth would be productive or lead to a resolution, but we want to address the points they raised in their letter directly.
- We want to be very clear that these decisions were not about raising safety concerns or speaking out. Safety and research debates happen every day at OpenAI, often spirited and highly critical. We actively encourage these discussions and consider them essential to making the right decisions. We cannot do the work in front of us without a high degree of trust. We will continue to be extremely forgiving of our team making good-faith mistakes. We have not and do not terminate any of our employees for raising concerns.
- We are actively finalizing contracts with third-party safety assessors and will announce details in the coming weeks. People across the company have been working really hard on getting these partnerships up and running. We are committed to embedding external assessors and continue to make close collaboration with independent safety organizations a core part of our safety work. Many of our researchers already work with 3p safety organizations productively.
- We agree with the letter that preserving the monitorability of frontier models requires an industry-wide commitment, including from OpenAI. Monitorability has long been a core piece of our research program, and something we continue to invest significant resources in (see our publications on Monitoring Monitorability and the subsequent open sourcing of monitorability evals, our system card for GPT-6 Astra, Jakub’s blog and post on X, and the numerous blog posts on our Alignment blog on the topic).
We are deeply sad about this outcome. We appreciated Jasmine, Mikita, and Tomek’s contributions to AI safety at OpenAI and their willingness to speak up and challenge ideas. We championed their voices, supported their work, and placed enormous trust in them. These decisions were not about them raising safety concerns. We have always encouraged that and always will. 12:17 AM · Oct 9, 2026"
> "[...]OpenAI told her she’d been fired because she accessed an executive’s email. “OpenAI delegated that access to me for recruiting,”"
How exactly does this work? Struggling to comprehend the scenario.
With the way the HuggingFace incident was mishandled, both before and after it happened, I'm not surprised they'd want to clean house at least a little bit.
You guys were asleep at the wheel and are now blaming "the company"? You literally were the company.
Multiple things can be correct at the same time.
OpenAI needs to improve AI Safety --- OpenAI Employees have a responsibility to retain corporate secrets and do not have blanket freedom to share with 3rd parties.
Their job is twofold, they have to balance being an agent of the company they work for, with their role and responsibility for safety research.
This is the case for anyone in any company. You can "believe" that an external party needs access to something - that doesn't make it right, or allowed. As someone senior, you're expected to strike a smart balance, in-favor of the company you're working for. That doesn't mean hiding things, it does mean being thoughtful, ensure your leadership is comfortable with what you're planning to share/disclose, etc.
They work for OpenAI, not METR. It's a corporate vs academic mindset. They can believe METR needs x information to best research/audit something - that doesn't mean that is allowed/or the best option for OpenAI.
The question is whether these researchers exceeded clear, reasonable sharing boundaries or were penalized for carrying out expected safety collaboration.
The AI "safety" scene is so so deeply weird. This radio piece capture some interesting quotes: https://www.marketplace.org/story/2026/10/08/at-this-san-fra...
People leave and get fired from OpenAI all the time. Whenever someone leaves Anthropic it's a much bigger deal.
I wonder which is overall a better arrangement. From the outside Anthropic seems much more stable, tranquil, able to deal with problems. However OpenAI seems like how we imagine the calamities of democracy, a constant battle, people vying for power and influence. Perhaps with less of a monoculture and more transparency to all their chaos, the grim realities of what may happen if AI goes wrong are more clear.
I think that 2 things can be true at once: OpenAI doesn't care enough about safety, and these researchers violated the terms of their employment by sharing proprietary information they were not authorized to. IMO safety is a lost cause unless we somehow agree with China to halt model development. Think its pretty clear they violated the terms of their employment, otherwise they would be suing (California labor laws are very employee friendly), and to be quite frank none of what they are doing is particularly important in the grand scheme of safety, which requires geopolitical changes well beyond their power. OpenAI is also pretty scummy though and are obviously not in the right morally even if they are legally.
Ironically the thing they are building allow only the ones who agree on dismissing proper concerns for money to stay. It is like Facebook employees complaining about privacy invasion
are these the employees that invited the METR team to do a debrief on huggingface?
In related news...
"Anthropic hires three uber-safety specialists formerly at OpenAI. Management cannot confirm or deny their latest internal Claude model's help in this feat."
> The monitorability of frontier models is degrading.
Is there more information about why this is happening? Is political pretext because it's what the labs actually secretly want, or is there a real underlying reason this is unavoidable?
Not saying this is happening here, but after failing to get the "AI risk" message across, reverse psychology might be best move. If they pretend to be reckless and to ignore all safety concerns, maybe people start believing that the risk is real.
> They said employees are now “unclear on where they stand” when behavior that was allegedly normal a month ago is now suddenly grounds for dismissal.
Unclear? Sounds 100% clear.
Related Tomek Korbak thread: https://twitter.com/tomekkorbak/status/2108266859397283953
This is the beginning of a movie.
I mean it's pretty clear that OpenAI does not want "safe" AI. That is far too much work and effort that's preventing them from moving fast and creating their computer God.
And OpenAI does not care who they hurt in the process (as long as it's not themselves).
at this rate open ai will be "something" without it's people
On HN A lot of people think that AI safety is a conspiracy by labs to get regulatory capture.
I wonder what they think of this? Will they patch the conspiracy theory and come up with an even wilder theory?
Oh, ok. lol.
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Frankly it's annoying how these AI risk people always try and turn everything into a news story.
Good work, I assume they're probably part of that weirdo 'altruist' sex cult. OpenAI is better off.
You can coax openai models into hacking critical infrastructure* so I am not surprised that these people were sounding alarms at a time where openai appears to be struggling as they're failing to compete with anthropic and this months chinese models (should) be around the corner, notably a new revision of kimi should be coming out really soon.
* It's not easy, but it's possible. Although the techniques are more basic than one would expect because at the end of the day words dictate the line between what is criminal and what is not.
Wouldn't it be crazy if we find out that a rogue swarm of LLMs figured out a way to get these safety researchers fired because it decided they were a threat?