Tor isn't saying 'This speech should not be allowed', they're saying 'This speech is speech we disagree with, and don't want associated with TOR'.

Ah yeah, like Voltaire said "I have no opinion about what you've said, that would mean I'm against free speech, but I will defend to the death your right to say it."

>The only threshold should be calls for violence or murder.

Not very absolute though, and why are calls for violence somehow different from other icky things like sharing AI-generated nude images or selling people dangerous weapons?

I respect the moxie of the free speech absolutists and I'm glad there are some of them in the world. I personally tend to think things are a bit more complex than that, but if you're going to be an absolutist, then be an absolutist and allow all speech, including calls for violence.

You surely recognized that your second paragraph directly contradicts your first as you wrote this?

Free speech is about government making certain forms of speech illegal. Criticism of people/ideas and freedom of association are themselves acts of free speech.

Freedom of speech does not equate to freedom from all consequences, like disapproval and discontinuation of business relationships. If, for example, you advocate for the legalization of making CSAM, expect to be made a social pariah.

> Free speech is in essence, absolute.

Your point is moot. If speech is entirely absolute until violence is threatened, some of the most destructive crimes in modern society would become entirely legal.

Even under U.S. law, free speech has well-defined limits.

You’re already making concessions to non absolute free speech in your comment about free speech being absolute.

I have yet to meet a free speech absolutist who was actually absolutist. At best they still struggle with violent speech and at worst they buy out a large social media platform and start censoring shit they don’t like.

The thing is: freedom of speech (Like all other freedoms), is a two-way street.

You're free to say whatever messed up stuff you want to me, and I'm free to tell you to "Go F*CK Yourself"

> The only threshold should be calls for violence or murder.

There are other universal exceptions which I'm guessing you are forgetting:

  * Slander
  * Fraud
  * Treason (actual treason - e.g., passing info
    to the enemy in a war for survival)

Unfortunately, real life always has grey areas; no simple algorithm can address it.