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kristopolous • today at 10:40 AM • 11 replies • view on HN

If you look at "old" internet: fidonet telnet bitnet ftp fsp wais netnews whois++ gopher relaynet ... i mean irc is one of the only ones that is still used, and mostly as it was 35 years ago. Pretty impressive.

People love knocking on IRC but people are still on it, still using it...


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frumiousirc • today at 10:56 AM

HTTP is also still somewhat popular.

But, seriously, that got me curious. There are many protocols from that early era that are still with us today. NTP, DNS, SMTP, IMAP, BGP, SNMP, NFS, ICMP. If you allow the 1990's as counting as "old" we can add SSH and SSL, DHCP, LDAP.

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countWSS • today at 11:15 AM

Actually, its just inertia and lack of reliable forum hosting, the actual "killer app" that replaced volatile and unarchivable chat content, but no one learned from it and people flocked to Discord, which is even more hostile to archiving/scanning chat history.

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terminalbraid • today at 11:01 AM

Yeah, but the major upgrades for things like telnet and ftp were adding appropriate encryption layers and improved authentication to include things like certificates. IRC shoehorned those into the connections awkwardly but it's still not often mandatory and registration is painful.

Also usenet is still very popular but mostly used for file sharing.

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zoky • today at 10:55 AM

FTP is still used quite a bit. For what it’s useful for, nothing has come close to replacing it.

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jstummbillig • today at 11:39 AM

Everything decentralized will keep being used. Stuff is sticky.

More illuminating: To what (relative) extend? And what's the trajectory?

Looking at Google Trends: https://trends.google.com/explore?q=%2Fm%2F03t2s%2C%2Fg%2F11...

techjamie • today at 1:03 PM

There is still a niche community of people running Gopher servers. I wrote a small basic implementation of a Gopher server in Python before for fun once and it hosted a Gopher hole for a few years. I doubt even one person actually looked it at besides me, but the RFC is simple and can be implemented pretty fast.

unclet • today at 10:50 AM

what about SMTP?

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mondainx • today at 3:16 PM

I wonder if the LOC Gopher is still around; I used to use it as a "jumping off" point.

nmlt • today at 11:16 AM

But as IRC has a social network component, it's more of a social thing than anything inherent to IRC.

RyJones • today at 11:12 AM

I'm here looking for other telenet (not telnet) oldheads, finding nobody.

dist-epoch • today at 10:43 AM

COBOL is still used 50 years later.

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