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453yuh46 • yesterday at 7:18 PM • 2 replies • view on HN

That is considered as surrender.

>>>If Putin suddenly declared he’d met his objectives and withdrew who’s to say otherwise?

Ahem, some facts: 1. Putin is representation of "collective Russian" mind 2. Collective Russians at this moment believe that they are winning the war. 3. Any withdrawing would be interpreted as betrayal and sure death for Putin(and he knows that) and new instance of his replacement, that would need to implement whatever collective Russians think.

Unfortunately, but the only way to end this war is a Russian military defeat, as no withdraw would ever happen and suggesting something like that is a fantasy, that ignores reality of how Russians are thinking. Yeah, it would have been better if NATO was involved, but on other hand Europeans and USA are too afraid to man up and chew bubble gum and kick some ass - they are now reverse of that chew something that is not bubble gum and take in the ass and Putin likes some young ass.


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jltsiren • yesterday at 8:36 PM

That would just be an inconclusive end to the war. An actual surrender can be conditional (an explicit deal that favors the winning side) or unconditional. In an unconditional surrender, the winner is free to do whathever they want. For example, they can walk in, rewrite your constitution, and dismantle your military and the industry supporting it.

SubiculumCode • yesterday at 8:20 PM

Yes, Putin cornered himself, the ambitious evil idiot...especially after their official act of joining the invaded lands to Russia.