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StableAlkyne • yesterday at 12:45 PM • 4 replies • view on HN

There is so much needless connection to the internet nowadays; this is the end result of a decade of shoving IoT into everything.

Beyond some corporate manager seeing a dashboard that will cause them to say "oh neat" in a meeting once, there is zero reason to put a refrigerator's cooling system online. Or frankly any network for that matter. Is there really such a massive productivity increase from being able to remotely change the temperature when a human has to physically visit the machine to restock every day anyway?


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Delphiza • yesterday at 12:58 PM

There are a bunch of good reasons to connect a commercial refrigeration unit to the Internet (via IoT). Notification when failover to the secondary cooling system happens, notification of when ambient temperature is too high, optimisation of energy consumption (especially after hours).

Doing it insecurely by, for example, having a device with a web server on the fridge is problematic. Not being able to deploy firmware updates. Having too much of the control loop exposed (as opposed to monitoring only), can lead to issues.

Service-oriented industries with costly assets will look to Internet connectivity for competitiveness and efficiency. It needs to be done better.

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Lyngbakr • yesterday at 1:16 PM

I always feel like such a buzzkill and Luddite when talking about IoT. My sister-in-law excitedly told me how her air fryer can be controlled remotely via an app. I think she also expected me — a techie — to be excited, but all I could see was unnecessary risk and usage data being slurped up by a corporation. I'm sure there are lots of good applications of IoT; however, I don't think this is one of them.

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pjmlp • yesterday at 1:15 PM

Added to it that those devices are powered by firmware written in C and C++, with various levels of quality control if any, and no field updates.

quickthrowman • yesterday at 1:11 PM

> there is zero reason to put a refrigerator's cooling system online.

There are plenty of good reasons to do that. It’s not a consumer refrigerator, it’s a collection of evaporators and condensers and sensors that are controlled by an automation system. Remote monitoring can alert operators to problems so they can be fixed before the food spoils.

Authentication is hard.

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