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petepete • today at 3:00 PM • 8 replies • view on HN

I bought an Apple TV 4K a few months ago (Google TV's ads were too much) and there's nothing here that might even slightly tempt me to upgrade.

* Siri - no thanks

* Far field microphones - no thanks

* Faster performance - unnecessary for me (I watch TV, movies and YouTube - it's never not smooth)

* Home theatre with homepods - I already have Sonos surround

* Even smarter home hub - I have a non-Apple smart home

* Facetime, Fitness+, Apple TV app - just not for me

The one thing I feel like I'm missing (and would be missing even if I upgraded) is audio passthrough, but DD 5.1 is _fine_.


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_coveredInBees • today at 4:09 PM

The lack of audio passthrough has been so frustrating. Apple TV would be an instant buy for me if it did. I have a pretty good 5.1 setup at home. I've been watching the LoTR trilogy with my kids and there is a big difference between DD 5.1 vs the higher quality audio streams. I use a Shield for this reason, but it's clunky and I'd much rather have something that just works. Shame that Apple has no interest in supporting audio passthrough for their devices.

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QGQBGdeZREunxLe • today at 3:49 PM

Looks like the ethernet port is back on all new models? It disappeared for the cheapest option in the previous generation.

Still no 2.5Gbps port in 2026 is disappointing.

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xgkickt • today at 3:26 PM

> * Faster performance - unnecessary for me (I watch TV, movies and YouTube - it's never not smooth)

Don't worry, the next tvOS update may fix that.

rconti • today at 3:58 PM

I tend to have at least one of the latest AppleTVs around, but I find myself without access to my best AppleTV 4k and am stuck using a 1st gen in my current home.

I was surprised to learn my 1st gen doesn't have a thread radio which caused some minor homekit compatability issues. I actually bought a new AppleTV 4k a couple months ago but it didn't really solve my problem, so I returned it with the reasoning that it was long in the tooth and a new model was coming out soon.

I just preordered this one but I sort of wonder if I should just go buy the last gen one for half the money or whatever. Seems like the actual buy. At the old price point, they were impulse buys. At this price point, well, it's enough to get me to stop and think about it.

Grombobulous • today at 3:49 PM

The remote adding find my precision finding is a killer feature, but you’ll be able to buy the remote standalone.

AV1 decoding is also a good feature to have.

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hbn • today at 4:45 PM

Does every refresh need to make a case for why existing owners of the last model need to upgrade?

Most of the purchases will be from people who do have an older model that's actually getting outdated, people who want another Apple TV for another room in their house, or people who don't own one at all. You buy this one now, it'll probably be good for the better part of a decade and you won't need to think about the next refresh.

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cromka • today at 3:23 PM

> The one thing I feel like I'm missing is audio passthrough,

wait, the new 4K has passthrough finally? I did not see it mentioned.

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ctkhn • today at 3:13 PM

Even the homepods setup - anyone who wants full home theater would just get sonos or other serious surround sound.

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