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fmarasho • today at 3:00 PM • 8 replies • view on HN

> Secure Exclaves. The A18 chip inside HomeView contains Secure Exclaves that process the camera and microphone feeds in a secure compartment that cannot be accessed by the operating system or by Apple. This enables HomeView to recognize the face and voice of each user without exposing the audio and visual data used for recognition to the operating system.

This is interesting!


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cromka • today at 3:04 PM

That's how they say the continuous sound recording works on newest Apple Watch.

Idk, to me it's just one more step in widening of the technological Overton window.

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amelius • today at 4:12 PM

Meanwhile their silicon fab can modify the design so the data is still leaking elsewhere ...

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CodeWriter23 • today at 5:29 PM

> Secure Exclaves that process the camera and microphone feeds in a secure compartment that cannot be accessed by the operating system or by Apple

So...no voice command? Or, is accessible by operating system or Apple?

monocasa • today at 5:12 PM

That sounds like a bad idea.

The point of a secure enclave is to reduce the attack surface to something you can actually reason about the entire thing.

Sticking more and more in there is asking to defeat the whole purpose.

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isodev • today at 3:20 PM

So Apple pinky-promises they will record everything you do at home and they won't use it? In any way? I find this really hard to believe. Apple is into ads now, so would you let Google/Meta see and listen inside your home all day? Nope.

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factorialboy • today at 6:54 PM

> that cannot be accessed by the operating system or by Apple

Does any third party periodically verify and audit this claim?

— or —

Do we blindly "just trust Apple, bro"?

Erlangen • today at 4:50 PM

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thenthenthen • today at 3:45 PM

Can they be mitm’ed like the Ledger wallet?

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