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postalcoder • today at 4:15 PM • 11 replies • view on HN

I'm using this model via API. I am most excited about its ability to write the english language (or any language). My least favorite trend on twitter has been people posting 2D illustrations/3D renders as a proxy for model capability. Well-written prose is far less likely to go viral but far outstrips the importance rendering a fantasy world in one shot.

I've been trying it out via the API and the model has been a delight so far. Clear in the head, not RL-fried, distinct writing style, and big model smell. That said, the em-dash is back w/ this model.

That said, I would be so frustrated with Sundar Pichai if I was on the Google team. The botched rollout of this model seems to be entirely a matter of capacity, and Pichai has been more than happy to give it to anybody but his own team.


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asdfman123 • today at 5:52 PM

I've been using it for a while internally at Google. I prefer Argon over Opus 5.5 because of the clear thinking and directness. It phrases things in an organized, straightforward way.

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andybak • today at 10:13 PM

> Well-written prose is far less likely to go viral but far outstrips the importance rendering a fantasy world in one shot.

I'm not entirely sure you're correct. Your claim boils down to "Writing natural human prose" vs "Broad use of complex software and spatial awareness". My gut feeling is that there's more untapped and fruitful applications in the second group than the first - at least in the short term.

cluckindan • today at 7:47 PM

Em dashes are underappreciated — they are visually pleasing, not cluttery like semicolons or definitive like colons.

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algoth1 • today at 4:25 PM

I missed the em dash — ngl

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pkulak • today at 7:51 PM

I was kinda hoping I'd get to the end and it would say, "In fact, this entire post was drafted by Argon!"

dsco • today at 9:20 PM

I added Gemini 4 Argon to our video creation benchmarks.

The results are a bit disappointing given Googles scale and training data.

The results are on par with cheaper Chinese open source models to be frank. https://cliphou.se/benchmark/

postexitus • today at 4:30 PM

What was botched about it?

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baq • today at 7:47 PM

Unpopular opinion: em-dash is fine

jstummbillig • today at 5:38 PM

> That said, the em-dash is back w/ this model.

noooooooo

polynomial • today at 5:10 PM

> far outstrips the importance rendering a fantasy world in one shot.

Given FelonyBench, do we also have a FantasyBench?