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nickff • yesterday at 10:15 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

But Europe isn’t really supporting Ukraine, they’re just providing enough supplies to keep them in the fight. No state seems willing to provide enough assistance to allow for Ukrainian victory, because of the costs and risks associated with that aid. Even countries at little risk of reprisal from Russia are reluctant to do much at all.

As such, all of us doing nothing more than “voicing support” on the internet and some far-away rally, should offer our empathy, and not presume to tell them how much we’re “helping”.


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palata • yesterday at 10:54 PM

> But Europe isn’t really supporting Ukraine, they’re just providing enough supplies to keep them in the fight

What is your definition of "supporting", if "providing support" doesn't count?

throwaway2037 • today at 7:31 AM

Ukraine recieves 80B EUR in aid each year from various international partners. There is plenty of support.

You can learn more from a German, independent, non-profit research institute (Kiel) here: https://www.kielinstitut.de/research/topics/war-against-ukra...

onemoresoop • today at 3:01 AM

Europe is divided by propaganda and the situation is quite volatile at the moment. Some European countries do support Ukraine more than others..

estearum • yesterday at 11:54 PM

A lot of European countries (especially those closest to Russia) are doing a fuckton relative to their economies.

The US is the despicable laggard, even when accounting for our distance from the action.

(And especially when accounting for the fact we promised them our protection of their sovereignty)

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UpsideDownRide • today at 12:04 AM

Ukraine is provided with tech, weapons intelligence, and all kinds of equipment. You are spewing nonsense.

samplatt • today at 4:54 AM

>No state seems willing to provide enough assistance to allow for Ukrainian victory

Because Putin will never back down, by definition a Ukrainian "victory" would require the fall of Russia. Which would likely require a world war.