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Georgelemental • yesterday at 11:03 PM • 6 replies • view on HN

Via a negotiated settlement, which would very likely include Ukraine giving up some amount of territory to Russia and making some guarantees about neutrality, and the West lifting sanctions, hopefully in exchange for Russia paying for Ukraine's reconstruction.

Agree that it will be very hard to do though. Best time to try was years ago, but unfortunately Boris Johnson vetoed that, and now the Russians don't want to negotiate.


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nradov • yesterday at 11:48 PM

That's such a naive comment. Any negotiated "settlement" that Russia would accept would leave Ukraine effectively defenseless and no longer a sovereign state. It would be only a temporary truce, which Russia would use to rebuild their military and then renew the invasion in a few years on some other artificial pretext.

The only possible way to bring the conflict to a lasting peace is to kill enough Russians (including civilians) that they simply no longer have the capability to conduct war. That is the reality.

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UpsideDownRide • today at 12:00 AM

There is no such thing as neutrality. If Ukraine cannot align with west it will mean they will be forced to be under Russia.

el_jay • yesterday at 11:36 PM

Нet, товарищ. We do not reward wars of conquest by granting territorial gains to aggressors in Anno Domini 2026.

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ninkendo • today at 12:42 AM

> Ukraine giving up some amount of territory to Russia and making some guarantees about neutrality

So you’re saying the country that was invaded without any provocation, gives up territory for the pinky promise that Russia won’t do it again? You know this is already the second time in 10 years Putin has invaded and annexed Ukrainian territory, right? You do remember Crimea?

Or we can go further back in history, look at the policy of appeasement with hitler in 1939. It doesn’t end well. You don’t negotiate with invaders. They’re not going to stop because you asked nicely. They’re going to keep taking until it’s all theirs.

estearum • yesterday at 11:56 PM

Someone hasn't listened to or read anything from Putin in the last 10 years and it shows. What an astoundingly ignorant comment.

dwoldrich • yesterday at 11:42 PM

Diplomacy was a deliberately lost art and the kickbacks were sweet.

My eyebrows go up when anyone tries rehabilitating Boris' reputation re: Ukraine. He'll spend a long time in solitary confinement in the next life if there is any cosmic justice.

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